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Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:08:08 -0700 From: Andrew Kurn <k...@sfu.ca> To: bugs.andreas.glae...@freenet.de Subject: Re: Bug#755230 closed by Andreas Glaeser Thanks for your attention to this matter. I agree with you that there is no need to treat this as a program bug. However, the documentation could use some attention. I don't know where else to send such a request, and the Debian installer does ask for a report of difficulties. So, to someone updating the installation documentation, I would say: 1) Mention that the ISO image might not boot from FRS. 2) This might be got around using the method I mention (citing the section telling what's needed to boot.) 3) Explain that a symlink might be needed to /media if the ISO image is in an unexpected place. 4) Add citation of 5.4.7 for those using an alternative to direct e-mail in section A.4 Again, I don't minimize your work as a volunteer. You are due much appreciation for your effort. Andrew On Mon 4 Apr 2016 13:21 +0000, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report > which was filed against the installation-reports package: > > #755230: report > > It has been closed by Andreas Glaeser <bugs.andreas.glae...@freenet.de>. > > Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. > If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a > better one in a separate message then please contact Andreas Glaeser > <bugs.andreas.glae...@freenet.de> by replying to this email. > > > -- > 755230: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755230 > Debian Bug Tracking System > Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems Received: (at 755230-done) by bugs.debian.org; 4 Apr 2016 13:18:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2014-02-07) on buxtehude.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,DIGITS_LETTERS, FOURLA,FREEMAIL_FROM,FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD,MIME_BASE64_TEXT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 27; 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Mon, 04 Apr 2016 15:16:51 +0200 Received: from x4e376c49.dyn.telefonica.de ([78.55.108.73]:33079 helo=a68n.lokal) by mx16.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID bugs.andreas.glae...@freenet.de) (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1an4N9-0002CX-9D for 755230-d...@bugs.debian.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2016 15:16:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:15:38 +0200 From: Andreas Glaeser <bugs.andreas.glae...@freenet.de> To: 755230-d...@bugs.debian.org Subject: no need to keep this report open Message-ID: <20160404151538.3a6c8dd2@a68n.lokal> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Originated-At: 78.55.108.73!33079 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Your feedback is appreciated, although it lacks a speaking message-subject. > > You write, you were able to resolve the problem yourself and it doesn't > really seem to > be a problem in Debian, but one with the BIOS of your computer, that makes the > installer-image not bootable from USB. > > So I think it is safe to close this issue. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iEYEARECAAYFAlcCaPoACgkQ5+rBHyUt5wsXYACeImVuLgyzSpDGRP2dIeq4clyG > XNMAoK4dHQD+V/5wbGMi8h2Z3rOOwbe0 > =Sjz6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:56:00 -0700 Received: (from kurn@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.13.8+Sun/8.14.3/SFU-6.0C) id s6ILtxxQ028859 for sub...@bugs.debian.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:55:59 -0700 From: Andrew Kurn <k...@sfu.ca> To: sub...@bugs.debian.org Subject: report Message-ID: <20140718215559.gc19...@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: delayed 2514 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at buxtehude; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 22:37:55 UTC Delivered-To: sub...@bugs.debian.org > > Package: installation-reports > > Boot method: Hard disk > Image version: an ISO image. I still have it, if you can tell me how to > extract its > identity. Date: 10 July 2014 > > Machine: Dell tower. 5 years old, at least > Processor: Intel > Memory: 512 MB > Partitions: > Filesystem Type 1K-blocks > Used > Available Use% Mounted on rootfs > rootfs 48060296 3813692 41805236 9% / > udev devtmpfs 10240 > 0 > 10240 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs > 51268 640 50628 > 2% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/910ebbba-e8db-45c2-95f1-6d4f9805b7d4 ext3 > 48060296 > 3813692 41805236 9% / tmpfs > tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock > tmpfs tmpfs 493080 > 224 > 492856 1% /run/shm /dev/sda3 > ext3 > 103812344 13443604 85095348 > 14% /home /dev/sdb1 vfat > 1956224 > 1226112 730112 63% /media/usb0 > > > Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn): > 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM > Controller/Host-Hub > Interface [8086:2570] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated > Graphics > Controller [8086:2572] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: i915 > 00:06.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to > I/O Memory > Interface [8086:2576] (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel > Corporation > 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24d2] (rev 02) > Subsystem: Dell > Device [1028:01d5] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd > 00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB > UHCI > Controller #2 [8086:24d4] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd > 00:1d.3 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB > UHCI > Controller #4 [8086:24de] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd > 00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 > EHCI > Controller [8086:24dd] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] > (rev c2) > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC > Interface > Bridge [8086:24d0] (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation > 82801EB/ER > (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller [8086:24db] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device > [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: ata_piix > 00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus > Controller > [8086:24d3] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER > (ICH5/ICH5R) > AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24d5] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0 > 01:01.0 Communication controller [0780]: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k > Data/Fax Modem > [14f1:2f20] Subsystem: Conexant Systems, Inc. Dimension 3000 [14f1:200f] > 01:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet > Controller [8086:1050] (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01d5] > Kernel driver in use: e100 > > Base System Installation Checklist: > [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it > > Initial boot: [O] > Detect network card: [O] > Configure network: [O] > Detect CD: [O] > Load installer modules: [O] > Detect hard drives: [O] > Partition hard drives: [O] > Install base system: [O] > Clock/timezone setup: [O] > User/password setup: [O] > Install tasks: [O] > Install boot loader: [O] > Overall install: [O] > > Comments/Problems: > > Because my machine will boot from a Flash Ram Stick (henceforth FRS) when I'm > booting > Puppy Linux, I wanted to go that way. The doc says your new ISO image will > boot from > either DVD, CD, or FRS. But, it would not actually boot. I presume that its > a problem > with the elderly BIOS. > > So, instead, I used Puppy to repartition the HD and wrote the kernel and > initrd there > (following guidance in the doc on what was needed for the installer to boot). > I used > Puppy's command-line Grub. However, when I was telling it where the kernel > and initrd > were, it complained. > > The Grub doc says that the command-line version is just a simulation, so > inferior. > Thus, I asked the command-line to write Grub into the MBR. Then I booted > successfully > from there. > > From there, the installer ran without problems. > > I will add one subsequent problem: When I ran apt-get, it could not find the > image, > expecting it to be on DVD, but I was able to use the sym-link in /media to > point to the > FRS, after which it seemed happy and ran to completion. > > A note in the doc would be helpful about /media: how it duplicates some of > the funtion > of /mnt I just had to guess what was going on. > > Of course, I will now be tuning up things, so will run into many small bugs, > but the > big problem is solved. > > I must add that the place in the doc where it says how to report installation > needs > more info. It offers no alternative to setting up mail on the target box in > sect. A.4 > (https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas04.html.en) Please put a > pointer to > the section I used for this: Sect 5.4.7 > > Andrew -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlcEw5EACgkQ5+rBHyUt5wsj8wCeM2i6c2lpL2Lg9T1C5lqd1/mo R3wAoK9Qdsi+1Qf/C310/6VvFHxvX9F8 =LHxW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
