Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-21 Thread Marc
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:47:48 +0200 Michael Franzl off...@michaelfranzl.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:19:02 -0400 Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org wrote: Anyway the Debian security tracker is tracking this [2]. [2] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/TEMP-000-A21526

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-21 Thread Michael Franzl
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:19:02 -0400 Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org wrote: Anyway the Debian security tracker is tracking this [2]. [2] https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/TEMP-000-A21526 This link is dead / says Not found. Could you post the correct link? Thanks -- To

Bug#786909: Please stop (was: Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob)

2015-06-18 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 20:36 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: See previous message. I've had read that only afterwards, as well as this message. You will get absolutely nowhere continuing to tell people that they need to drop everything to scratch your particular itches. I don't think I've asked

Bug#786909: Please stop (was: Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob)

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: - still no DSA (or something like that) See previous message. - still no concentrated effort at the Debian level to pro-actively work against such sources that include or more or less secretly download blobs If you have an

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Michael Gilbert wrote: Yes, nacl is intentionally disabled in the Debian packages, [...] [...] No, it does not work. Obviously nacl applications cannot execute without a nacl interpreter. Thanks! That's quite reassuring for Debian users at least. Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: I don't

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 23:42 +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Upstream have said: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435#c10 This is not opt-in default. If you do not explicitly opt in (using the Enable Ok Google setting in chrome://settings), then this module will

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Gilbert
Since this made it to LWN [0] and Y Combinator [1] with an incredible amount of misinformation, let's attempt a (hopefully) non-hyped conversation about this, which unfortunately didn't happen a few days ago. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-16 at

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 20:19 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Except that the actual contents of the downloaded files in many ways do not actually matter. Those files are nacl executables, which are sandboxed in any nacl-enabled chromium, so barring a sandbox escape included in the files, this is

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi, Upstream have said: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435#c10 This is not opt-in default. If you do not explicitly opt in (using the Enable Ok Google setting in chrome://settings), then this module will not run. That suggests to me that security of users was not put

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Steven Chamberlain wrote: would the DFSG chromium browser be 'more' free if it disabled NaCl? Actually, in the build log I see disable_nacl=1 I'm confused that hotword-x86-64.nexe is a NaCl module [0], even though Debian's chromium is built with NaCl 'disabled'? Does this feature actually

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Steven Chamberlain wrote: would the DFSG chromium browser be 'more' free if it disabled NaCl? Actually, in the build log I see disable_nacl=1 I'm confused that hotword-x86-64.nexe is a NaCl module [0], even though Debian's chromium

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-16 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 00:49 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Barring the obtusely incorrect rootkit miscategorization Well, as I've said,.. no one can really tell what it is, since it's a blob,... and even if one would assume that someone could correctly reverse engineer it, or reproducibly build

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-15 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi. Shouldn't we see a DSA following this incident? Since no one really know which binaries have been downloaded there and what they actually do, and since it cannot be excluded that it was actually executed, such systems are basically to be considered compromised. Quite a deal of people

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-15 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Shouldn't we see a DSA following this incident? Since no one really know which binaries have been downloaded there and what they actually do, and since it cannot be excluded that it was actually executed, such systems are

Bug#786909: [Pkg-chromium-maint] Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-06-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2015-05-28 at 21:37 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: control: tag -1 confirmed, help On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: Note that the binary blob is executed throught native client, which is not enabled by default, so I /think/ you need explicit action from the

Bug#786909: [Pkg-chromium-maint] Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-05-28 Thread Michael Gilbert
control: tag -1 confirmed, help On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: Note that the binary blob is executed throught native client, which is not enabled by default, so I /think/ you need explicit action from the user (although if you enable NaCl for something else, then you

Bug#786909: [Pkg-chromium-maint] Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-05-27 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 27 mai 2015 12:56 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org : Chromium 43.0.2357.65 (Built on Debian stretch/sid, running on Debian stretch/sid) OSLinux NaCl Enabled No MicrophoneNo Audio Capture Allowed Yes Current Language en-US Hotword Previous Language

Bug#786909: [Pkg-chromium-maint] Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-05-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2015-05-27 at 13:23 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: Same here. I did delete the extension path but somehow Chromium seems to think it's still here (I have the same output as you except Shared Module Platforms). You can check if it is running using the task manager: from various bug

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-05-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2015-05-27 at 01:23 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: Package: chromium Version: 43.0.2357.65-1 Severity: serious Tags: security upstream Justification: Policy 2.1.2 Control: forwarded -1 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435 Dear Maintainer, After

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-05-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2015-05-27 at 12:52 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On mer., 2015-05-27 at 01:23 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: Package: chromium Version: 43.0.2357.65-1 Severity: serious Tags: security upstream Justification: Policy 2.1.2 Control: forwarded -1

Bug#786909: chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

2015-05-26 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Package: chromium Version: 43.0.2357.65-1 Severity: serious Tags: security upstream Justification: Policy 2.1.2 Control: forwarded -1 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435 Dear Maintainer, After upgrading chromium to 43, I noticed that when it is running and immediately