Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
Hello Thorsten, On 12/16/2016 03:36 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > >> On 12/16/2016 02:53 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: >>> That doesn't document (upstream) reality though. Once u

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > On 12/16/2016 02:53 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > > > >> That doesn't document (upstream) reality though. Once upon a time, > >> there were one or two Section 9 pages in the man-pa

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
On 12/16/2016 02:53 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > >> That doesn't document (upstream) reality though. Once upon a time, >> there were one or two Section 9 pages in the man-pages >> project. No one updated them or added new one in > 15 years,

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > That doesn't document (upstream) reality though. Once upon a time, > there were one or two Section 9 pages in the man-pages > project. No one updated them or added new one in > 15 years, > and I deleted them years ago, as being out-of-date

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
On 12/16/2016 02:37 PM, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi, > > Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: >>> Upstream man-pages maintainer here; I just added tmpfs(5), unaware >>> that it would create a conflict for Debian; I assume the conflicting >>> page is Debian

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
On 12/16/2016 02:40 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Axel Beckert wrote: > > The manpage about the Linux tmpfs should be tmpfs(9) as it > covers a kernel concept (here: a filesystem). Not sure where this idea originates. There is no Section 9 on Linux. >>> >>> Ah

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Axel Beckert wrote: > > > > The manpage about the Linux tmpfs should be tmpfs(9) as it > > > > covers a kernel concept (here: a filesystem). > > > > > > Not sure where this idea originates. There is no Section 9 on Linux. > > > > Ah, hmm, too bad then. We have them on BSD. >

Bug#847998: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-16 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > > Upstream man-pages maintainer here; I just added tmpfs(5), unaware > > that it would create a conflict for Debian; I assume the conflicting > > page is Debian-specific(?). (I don't have such a page on my Fedor

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
On 13 December 2016 at 10:56, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > >> I can't move "them" as they come from diverse projects (nfs-utils, > > OK. > >> e2fsprogs, btrfs-progs). Obviously, various projects came to the same >> conclusion (or copied each ot

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
>>> And there's certainly precedent for section 5 pages on filesystems. >>> For example, among others, we have ext4(5), btrfs(5), and nfs(5). >> >> But section 5 is for configuration files. You could move them >> to section 7 (general concepts), though. > > I can't move "them" as they come from div

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > I can't move "them" as they come from diverse projects (nfs-utils, OK. > e2fsprogs, btrfs-progs). Obviously, various projects came to the same > conclusion (or copied each other's idea) that Section 5 was the right > place. And in the Lin

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
Hello Thorsten, On 13 December 2016 at 10:43, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > >> Upstream man-pages maintainer here; I just added tmpfs(5), unaware >> that it would create a conflict for Debian; I assume the conflicting >> page is Debian-specific

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Dr. Tobias Quathamer
Am 13. Dezember 2016 04:49:46 MEZ, schrieb Michael Biebl : >On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 00:44:24 +0100 Sebastian Ramacher > wrote: >> Package: manpages >> Version: 4.09-1 >> Severity: serious >> >> manpages fails to install because it shares tmpfs(5) with >initscripts: >> >> dpkg: error processing archiv

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > Upstream man-pages maintainer here; I just added tmpfs(5), unaware > that it would create a conflict for Debian; I assume the conflicting > page is Debian-specific(?). (I don't have such a page on my Fedora Yes. > > The manpage about the

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
Upstream man-pages maintainer here; I just added tmpfs(5), unaware that it would create a conflict for Debian; I assume the conflicting page is Debian-specific(?). (I don't have such a page on my Fedora system.) On 13 December 2016 at 10:00, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael B

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michael Biebl wrote: > The tmpfs man page shipped by the manpages package talks about the tmpfs > file system. > The man page shipped by initscripts talks about the debian/initscripts > specific config file /etc/default/tmpfs. > > My gut feeling is, that debian specific tmpfs

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-12 Thread Michael Biebl
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 00:44:24 +0100 Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > Package: manpages > Version: 4.09-1 > Severity: serious > > manpages fails to install because it shares tmpfs(5) with initscripts: > > dpkg: error processing archive > /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-7sSPgR/26-manpages_4.09-1_all.deb (--unpac

Bug#847998: manpages: file conflicts with initscripts

2016-12-12 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
Package: manpages Version: 4.09-1 Severity: serious manpages fails to install because it shares tmpfs(5) with initscripts: dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-7sSPgR/26-manpages_4.09-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man5/tmpfs.5.gz', which is also in pa