Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 06:19:10PM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 07:22:45PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 17 2017, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > > > Package: debian-policy Version: 4.1.1.1 Severity: normal > > > > > > Section 4.4 explains quite a bit about

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

control: reassign -1 developers-reference control: retitle -1 State intended audience of debian/changelog Hello Ross, On Sun, Oct 22 2017, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > I have, it does, and that's a reasonable reluctance. But I don't see > anything there that would tell a new contributor about the

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 07:22:45PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17 2017, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > Package: debian-policy Version: 4.1.1.1 Severity: normal > > > > Section 4.4 explains quite a bit about debian/changelog, but doesn't > > really explain its purpose. > > Have you

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 08:48:28PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Separate than the point that Policy could probably stand to say something > a little more concrete about the purpose of debian/changelog, I suspect > this came out of the recurring discussion of whether to include unreleased >

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

Hello, On Thu, Oct 19 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > My impression of discussion on debian-mentors over the past few years > is that most of the people active in sponsoring have as a requirement > that all changelogs from versions of a package that weren't uploaded > to Debian be consolidated and

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

Sean Whitton writes: > On Wed, Oct 18 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: >> It's probably worth noting here that while debian-mentors has >> converged to a very strong consensus that unreleased versions of >> packages should not appear in debian/changelog, the consensus about >>

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

Bill Allombert writes: > What actually matter is that the .changes file include the relevant > extract from the changelog and do not miss packaging change because they > where listed in unreleased versions and dpkg-genchanges -v was not used > properly. Yes, indeed, that's

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

Hello Russ, On Wed, Oct 18 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > It's probably worth noting here that while debian-mentors has > converged to a very strong consensus that unreleased versions of > packages should not appear in debian/changelog, the consensus about > that in the broader project is nowhere

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 08:48:28PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Some people in debian-mentors will make very absolute statements about > never including unreleased versions in debian/changelog and always > consolidating versions, and will give the impression that literally > everyone in Debian

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

Ross Vandegrift writes: > Section 4.4 explains quite a bit about debian/changelog, but doesn't > really explain its purpose. I took its purpose to be recording history > and driving automation - which led to some mistakes that might've been > avoided. During a recent thread

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

control: tag -1 +moreinfo Hello Ross, On Tue, Oct 17 2017, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Package: debian-policy Version: 4.1.1.1 Severity: normal > > Section 4.4 explains quite a bit about debian/changelog, but doesn't > really explain its purpose. Have you seen Developer's Reference 5.2? That

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 at 23:06:29 -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > During a > recent thread on mentors [1], I learned that the purpose is to provide a human > readable list of changes between released versions of Debian. Between released versions of the package in Debian, rather than versions of

Bug#878967: debian-policy: clarify purpose of debian/changelog

Package: debian-policy Version: 4.1.1.1 Severity: normal Section 4.4 explains quite a bit about debian/changelog, but doesn't really explain its purpose. I took its purpose to be recording history and driving automation - which led to some mistakes that might've been avoided. During a recent