Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-07-22 Thread Ansgar
Sean Whitton writes: > On Sun 14 Jul 2019 at 10:22AM +02, Ansgar wrote: >> How should we continue with this issue? > > Thank you for following up. > > I still do not see any positive reason for deleting documentation which > might be helpful to someone, especially when discussion in the bug has > i

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-07-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Sean Whitton writes: > Therefore I would like to propose the following change: This looks good to me, and I agree that this thread has shown a consensus that lack of doc-base registration should not be considered a bug, given our belief that it is not widely used. Seconded. > diff --git a/poli

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-07-14 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun 14 Jul 2019 at 10:22AM +02, Ansgar wrote: > How should we continue with this issue? Thank you for following up. I still do not see any positive reason for deleting documentation which might be helpful to someone, especially when discussion in the bug has indicated that people are

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-07-14 Thread Ansgar
Sean Whitton writes: > On Thu 11 Oct 2018 at 12:57PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > >> It seems to me that the consensus is that doc-base is not actually useful and >> so 9.10. Registering Documents using doc-base can be dropped. > > We shouldn't drop it because then the doc-base registrations

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-05-15 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 09:07:53AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > We need a cross-distro cross-desktop standard for an index of > > docs before we can move on from doc-base like we did with menu. > I don't think so: we can just remove doc-base without providing a > replacement at the same time

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-05-15 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Paul Wise writes: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:32:52 -0700 Sean Whitton wrote: >> Instead, if there is indeed consensus, we should change it so that it >> no longer says that doc-base registration is recommended. > > We need a cross-distro cross-desktop standard for an index of > docs before we can mov

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:32:52 -0700 Sean Whitton wrote: > Instead, if there is indeed consensus, we should change it so that it > no longer says that doc-base registration is recommended. We need a cross-distro cross-desktop standard for an index of docs before we can move on from doc-base like we

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2018-10-12 10:16, Bill Allombert wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 01:04:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation"): > Package: debian-policy > Version: 4.2.1.2 > Severity: normal > > It seems to me that

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 01:04:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation"): > > Package: debian-policy > > Version: 4.2.1.2 > > Severity: normal > > > > It seems to me that the consensus is th

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 06:10:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Stuart Prescott writes: > > > In counterpoint, I'll add to that 4169 packages register 5318 sets of > > documents in doc-base. To me, that says that we've got a lot of packages > > who are advertising their documentation this way. >

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 06:10:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I wish I had some feel for how many people were actually using doc-base as > a client, though. How many users actually run the tools and use them to > find documentation, and is it successful for them? to give a data-point: I have no

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Stuart Prescott writes: > In counterpoint, I'll add to that 4169 packages register 5318 sets of > documents in doc-base. To me, that says that we've got a lot of packages > who are advertising their documentation this way. I wish I had some feel for how many people were actually using doc-base a

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Stuart Prescott
> lintian has an I: possible-documentation-but-no-doc-base-registration tag, > with 1872 emitted currently: > https://lintian.debian.org/tags/possible-documentation-> > but-no-doc-base-registration.html In counterpoint, I'll add to that 4169 packages register 5318 sets of documents in doc-base.

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 11 Oct 2018 at 01:04PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The problem with doc-base is not that it is a bad idea, it's that it's > not comprehensive enough. > > I suggest that instead of abandoning it, we should bump the lintian > message to a warning. I'm not a Lintian maintainer, but I

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Andrey, On Thu 11 Oct 2018 at 12:57PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > It seems to me that the consensus is that doc-base is not actually useful and > so 9.10. Registering Documents using doc-base can be dropped. We shouldn't drop it because then the doc-base registrations in existing pa

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Ian Jackson 2018-10-11 <23487.15460.144648.495...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> > The problem with doc-base is not that it is a bad idea, it's that it's > not comprehensive enough. The problem with doc-base is that no one is using it. It had 20 years to become adopted. Let's move on instead of tryin

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation"): > Package: debian-policy > Version: 4.2.1.2 > Severity: normal > > It seems to me that the consensus is that doc-base is not actually useful and > so 9.10. Registering Documents using doc-base

Bug#910783: Remove doc-base recommendation

2018-10-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Package: debian-policy Version: 4.2.1.2 Severity: normal It seems to me that the consensus is that doc-base is not actually useful and so 9.10. Registering Documents using doc-base can be dropped. lintian has an I: possible-documentation-but-no-doc-base-registration tag, with 1872 emitted current