Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-29 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi Mario, first of all thanks for your pointers! On 27/12/2018 20:28, mario.limoncie...@dell.com wrote: Just the fact that the update claims that the hardware only accepts signed updates or something else? :) At a minimum a claim. I will note - although slightly off-topic to the discussion

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-27 Thread Mario.Limonciello
> Just the fact that the update claims that the hardware only accepts > signed updates or something else? :) At a minimum a claim. > I will note - although slightly off-topic to the discussion at hand - > that it would be useful to people to be able to run their own repository > of updates and

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-27 Thread Philipp Kern
Hey Mario, On 2018-12-27 03:52, mario.limoncie...@dell.com wrote: Something I think worth mentioning is that LVFS is being transitioned to being run and managed by the Linux Foundation. yeah, that's great news. Interestingly enough the vendor signs a blob (CAB file) and LVFS throws it away

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Mario.Limonciello
Something I think worth mentioning is that LVFS is being transitioned to being run and managed by the Linux Foundation. >Interestingly enough the vendor signs a blob (CAB file) and LVFS throws > it away and re-signs the blob with its own key. But then again I think > the base assumption is that

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Philipp Kern
On 26/12/2018 22:32, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:27:35PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Steve McIntyre (2018-12-26): Philipp Kern (2018-12-26): I'm not sure, though, if there is some philosophical objection here in that fwupd downloads non-free blobs and/or that Debian

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:09 PM Philipp Kern wrote: > I'd have another - and I hope stronger - argument to upgrade the > dependency from suggests to recommends: gnome-software is actually > displaying an error when fwupd is not present on the bus (see attached > screenshot). I believe I was the

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 21:32 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:27:35PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Steve McIntyre (2018-12-26): > > > > Philipp Kern (2018-12-26): > > > > > I'm not sure, though, if there is some philosophical > > > > > objection here in > > > > >

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:27:35PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Steve McIntyre (2018-12-26): >> >Philipp Kern (2018-12-26): >> >> I'm not sure, though, if there is some philosophical objection here in >> >> that fwupd downloads non-free blobs and/or that Debian does not actually >> >> ship the

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve McIntyre (2018-12-26): > >Philipp Kern (2018-12-26): > >> I'm not sure, though, if there is some philosophical objection here in > >> that fwupd downloads non-free blobs and/or that Debian does not actually > >> ship the blobs themselves. > > > >FWIW both parts seem unacceptable to me,

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 09:48:15PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Hi, > >Philipp Kern (2018-12-26): >> I'm not sure, though, if there is some philosophical objection here in >> that fwupd downloads non-free blobs and/or that Debian does not actually >> ship the blobs themselves. > >FWIW both

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Philipp Kern (2018-12-26): > I'm not sure, though, if there is some philosophical objection here in > that fwupd downloads non-free blobs and/or that Debian does not actually > ship the blobs themselves. FWIW both parts seem unacceptable to me, esp. in a default installation. Cheers, --

Bug#916036: Install fwupd on a default installation

2018-12-26 Thread Philipp Kern
severity 916036 normal thanks Hi, I'd have another - and I hope stronger - argument to upgrade the dependency from suggests to recommends: gnome-software is actually displaying an error when fwupd is not present on the bus (see attached screenshot). But yes, I also second that we really