Bug#953629: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-07-01 Thread Felix Lechner
[This is the policy bug.] Hi, On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:18 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > the relevant sentence of Policy ... was intended to be > informative, not normative. Just a brief post scriptum: I had to disable a test in Lintian due to new restrictions on version strings in Dpkg. The

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-07-01 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:18 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > the relevant sentence of Policy ... was intended to be > informative, not normative. Just a brief post scriptum: I had to disable a test in Lintian due to new restrictions on version strings in Dpkg. The commit message has more

Bug#953629: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-06-16 Thread Sean Whitton
control: tag -1 +pending Hello Ian, On Tue 16 Jun 2020 at 12:11PM +01, Ian Jackson wrote: > I think "native package versions" refers to "versionn numbers which > are supposed to be Debian-native", not "the version numbers of > native-format packages". > > Can I suggest that this sentence might

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-06-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Sean Whitton writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]"): > I believe that the relevant sentence of Policy, added in policy.git > commit eee39aecef3a6a5f9927211b5c847e645e927cbd, was intended to be > informative, not

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-06-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]"): > Hi Sean, ... > Based on your note, however, Lintian will stop warning about such > version mismatches. Perhaps it will gradually pave the way for a &g

Bug#953629: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-06-15 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Sean, On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:18 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > As > discussion is ongoing in the context of Lintian, that seems premature, > however. The Lintian discussion was merged into a bug Guillem had filed to further enshrine the division between native and non-native packages

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-06-15 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 11 Mar 2020 at 12:30PM GMT, Ian Jackson wrote: > Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with > 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]"): >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:58 AM Ian Jackson >> wrote: >> > &

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Guillem, On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:14 PM Guillem Jover wrote: > > Given the timing of this reaction, I think it would not be > unreasonable to consider it originating out of spite? Actually, I did not think of you. I hoped to show Ian that I am not "part of a campaign to abolish one of

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages"): > For now, I will reduce the tag's severity to a warning > like you asked. Thank you. I think for 1.0 packages that warning should remain, because the lack of explicitness means

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 18:32:04 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:37 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > I hope that whatever occurs more widely, this particular message can > > be downgraded appropriately so that by default it is an warning rather > > than an error. That's all I'm

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-11 Thread Felix Lechner
Control: retitle -1 lintian: Restore format-specific changelog tags as warnings Control: forcemerge -1 944155 Hi Ian, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:37 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > > I hope that whatever occurs more widely, this particular message can > be downgraded appropriately so that by default it

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Mattia Rizzolo writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages"): > I'm with this. > doing 1.0+1, 1.0+2, etc would trigger my versioning OCD much less than > 1.0-1, 1.0-2 for native packages. > Ian: how does this proposal sound to you? Bad

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-11 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:19:39PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > E: chiark-tcl-applet source: malformed-debian-changelog-version 1.0-1~ > > (for native) > > > > For the reasons above I disagree with calling this an error. > > Previously it was a warning. (Full disclosure: I know the dpkg > >

Bug#953554: Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-03-11 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Ian, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:37 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > > I hope that whatever occurs more widely, this particular message can > be downgraded appropriately so that by default it is an warning rather > than an error. That's all I'm asking for in this bug. Unless someone objects, I will

Bug#953554: Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Lamb writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]"): > Ian Jackson wrote: > > I have no problem with this being a lintian warning. In this bug I am > > requesting this "error" to be returned to i

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 debian-policy Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]"): > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:58 AM Ian Jackson > wrote: > > > > It works today. The only pr

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-03-11 Thread Chris Lamb
Ian Jackson wrote: > I have no problem with this being a lintian warning. In this bug I am > requesting this "error" to be returned to its previous status as a > warning. It was not previously clear to me that this was the case. > I have indeed used an override. But I am worried. I perceive

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-03-11 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Ian, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:58 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > > It works today. The only problem is the lintian warning. Doesn't policy stand in the way too? > I perceive this as > part of a campaign to abolish one of my workflows. I am scared that > in the future an attempt may be made to

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages [and 1 more messages]

2020-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages"): > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 7:51 AM Ian Jackson > wrote: > > I am packaging a small program for which I am the upstream. It does > > not make sense to use a complicat

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-10 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Ian, On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 7:51 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > > I am packaging a small program for which I am the upstream. It does > not make sense to use a complicated source format; 1.0 native is > perfect. I too would like to see versions decoupled from the native/non-native question, but I

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ I was pointed out to this bug, so chiming in. :) ] On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 14:47:12 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Package: lintian > Version: 2.55.0 > I am packaging a small program for which I am the upstream. It does > not make sense to use a complicated source format; 1.0 native is >

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-10 Thread Chris Lamb
Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > In my opinion your statements here doesn't make any sense: using a > Debian revision when you are not relying on a single upstream tarball > (i.e., non-native) really is going against the implied meaning of a > Debian revision: something that is not supposed to change

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-10 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 3:51 pm Ian Jackson, wrote: > Package: lintian > Version: 2.55.0 > > I am packaging a small program for which I am the upstream. It does > not make sense to use a complicated source format; 1.0 native is > perfect. > There is no such thing about "1.0 native". I'm sure you

Bug#953554: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-03-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: lintian Version: 2.55.0 I am packaging a small program for which I am the upstream. It does not make sense to use a complicated source format; 1.0 native is perfect. Even though I am both upstream and Debian maintainer, this is not a Debian-specific package and it might have both (i)