in jessie, requiring specific init NOT allowed
9. GR project should decide via GR
10. FD further discussion
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preference in order to defeat them all.
If this actually becomes the case, we can vote again, or change our
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On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
If this actually becomes the case, we can vote again, or change our
votes. Burying will be pretty obvious in this case, after all.
Scratch what I said.
Given that there isn't actually a potential compromise winner in this
case, or anyone who has
sidesteps this problem, I think,
since that avoids the technical details of how such compatibility is
implemented.
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with me.
Do you have an updated patch with this change and a documentation of the
tmpfiles.d change?
I will draft a resolution shortly to implement this patch, and will
open it for discussion.
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
Don Armstrong writes (Bug#727708: call for votes on default Linux init
system for jessie):
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
M. Debian intends to support multiple init systems, for the
foreseeable future, and so long
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Neil McGovern wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05:18AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
Where feasible, software should interoperate with non-default init
systems; maintainers are encouraged to accept technically sound
patches to enable interoperation, even
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:23:11AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
The former. So :
Where feasible, software should interoperate with non-default init
systems; maintainers are encouraged to accept technically sound
patches
reason at all is hard.
I'd much rather give some guidance (in the form of the above), and trust
maintainers to do the right thing. The CTTE and/or the project can
always intervene if necessary after the fact.
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There are two major
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
I think we should break the bigger question into this question plus
additional advice for transition after we resolve this issue, but for me
to vote things above FD, we should allow for a simple majority GR to
vacate this decision.
Here is a first
the technically
superior position that systemd has, in my opinion.
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The second patch replaces the default graph with the -release one, and adds a
link to the two other graphs to the page.
Thanks for this patch; I'll apply it shortly.
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be. [Even
without cgroups, it'll be superior to sysv, after all.]
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does not use generators so that once the CTTE has resolved the init
system question we have a patch in front of us that we can rule on?
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of the FOSS world might have just improved
it, and systemd might never have shown up. I suspect that the fate of
bzr might be similar.
These should serve as a cautionary tale for for-profit companies
requiring CLAs. [Or everyone, even.]
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if they
wish. [I suppose we could also send ban messages to -project on behalf
of the banned individual if they requested it; that's basically what
happened here.]
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Javier Serrano Polo wrote:
El dc 15 de 01 de 2014 a les 08:33 -0800, Don Armstrong va escriure:
We don't publish them in order to protect the reputation of people who
are banned. The individuals who are banned can publish their ban if they
wish. [I suppose we could
alternatives was naïve, as
alternatives need to share a common command line syntax.]
So the /usr/bin/rename syntax we've ended up with is very Perl specific
and I think we're stuck with that. I'm Cc'ing Don Armstrong though,
as he suggested using the alternatives system in #304705 and may have
to upload it to Debian. I believe this is a
bug in dh-python2, but I haven't had a chance to completely debug it yet.
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) =
! ( $response =~ /^content-type:.* boundary=([^\]*)/im );
$self-response(
HTTP::Response-new(
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version of
biblatex seems to require a specific version of biber.
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have scars and wounds. Sometimes
it as an option.
Would that be good enough?
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2014, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
Instead of removing it, I'd like to just prominently mark it as
deprecated, and coordinate with reportbug to never show it as an option.
why?
and then you'd want to remove the base package in 5
://git.donarmstrong.com/lilypond.git and you can send me patches, or
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I will implement this shortly.
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I'd just resend them in blocks of five if that's not too much trouble.
Excuse me if it looks a little bit stupid :)
No, it's a perfectly reasonable question. [For messages from DAK, we
don't do this sort of checking.]
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2013, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Russ Allbery
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
Projects which have multiple components, each of which has
different security/interface surfaces without stable defined
interfaces, can lead to problems when one set of developers
On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, Bastian Blank wrote:
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 05:49:13PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
Bastian: Would such a patch be acceptable in principle?
After systemd was fixed, yes.
Can you let me know which part of systemd needed to be fixed? [What bug#
is this?]
Can you also
implications of the parts that they do not work on.
The combination of components into a single monolith is sometimes
necessary, but it's not clear that it is so in the case of systemd.
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we can make the best
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such a patch be acceptable in principle?
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/bin/psi-cd-hit-local
/usr/bin/cd-hit-2d-para
/usr/bin/psi-cd-hit-2d
/usr/bin/psi-cd-hit
/usr/bin/psi-cd-hit-2d-g1
/usr/bin/cdhit-454
/usr/bin/cdhit-2d
/usr/bin/cdhit-est-2d
/usr/bin/cd-hit-para
/usr/bin/cdhit
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Do you need [...] [t
has another; I'd like to reference a canonical location for ports
(perhaps maintained by debian-ports or similar) so I don't have to
figure out for myself which ports need a tag and what that tag should
be, and which ports are just duplicates of other ports, and therefore
don't need a tag.
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Paul Wise wrote:
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
These are the list of ports that I see:
I would strongly suggest not hardcoding this list and instead
harvesting the Architecture fields of the Release files for oldstable
- experimental
the latest,
greatest package? Thanks!
I'm probably not going to bother packaging it for experimental, as the
2.18.0 release is eminent.
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It's not Hollywood. War is real, war is primarily not about defeat or
victory, it is about
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This is a bug in libravatar.org's CDN, though perhaps the BTS can do
better and ignore the content-type given and actually calculate it
itself.
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biggest bloody authority
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Don Armstrong d...@debian.org [2013-11-12 19:42]:
done of #729445 is '' not 'Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org'
done of #721491 is '' not 'Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org'
Failed to merge 701223: Did not alter merged bugs
729445
to merge 701223: Did not alter merged bugs
729445 and 721491 are not done. You probably want forcemerge instead.
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is not installed.
Package wine64-bin is not installed.
dpkg: error processing wine-unstable (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
wine-unstable
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just so it doesn't get on the release team's radar this early in the
release. I will make a release of spamass-milter in the not-too-distant
future with this fix in.
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PowerPoint is symptomatic of a certain type
, and will
roll it out to the BTS soonish.
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2013, shirish शिरीष wrote:
Any updates Don, to flightcrew ?
I'm finishing up the final testing of sigil, and am about to start
working on flightcrew itself.
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Axel Beckert wrote:
Don Armstrong wrote:
[Axel: can you test to make sure that the failure mode of the
gnome control center is reasonable without NM installed?]
1:3.8.3-3 with network-manager-gnome downgraded to Recommends works
fine for me on kfreebsd-i386. Nothing
-PR-Message: report 726495
X-Debian-PR-Package: sendfile
X-Debian-PR-Keywords: patch
X-Debian-PR-Source: sendfile
This shows that the BTS knew what the package was at least at some point
in time. I'll have to check this out more closely later.
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case that a Recommends: is warranted.
1: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681834#273
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2013, Sjoerd Simons wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 16:09 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/gnome-control-center/debian/control.in?r1=37425r2=37515
Assuming the rest of the gnome control center will work without NM
or maintaining the openldap packages in Debian,
please refrain from responding.
The maintainers of distribution packages in distributions like Debian do
intend for them to be used in production use, and openldap is no
exception. Otherwise, we wouldn't bother making the packages in the
first place.
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substantial new
features beyond those present in core perl, there's no reason to
maintain them separately in the archive.
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http
have to verify the key IDs via the web of trust.
1: Unless you're proposing that people check the authenticity of the SSL
certificates too against a known set of fingerprints, which brings you
right back to the same bootstrapping problem.
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-- Pierre Habouzit madco...@debian.org Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:10:56 +0200
From reading the source code, it appears that this has not been fixed.
Frankly, if you want to cache host requests, there are better methods
than using nscd.
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CNN
the libthreads-perl and
libthreads-shared-perl beyond the version currently present perl 5.18.1
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I can't remember starting, and I'm never done.
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ends (mainly
cleaning up the copies of the original DTD from the git repository) and
I should be doing an upload in the next few days.
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The attackers hadn't simply robbed the bank. They had carried off
everything portable, including the security cameras, the carpets, the
chairs, and the light and plumbing fixtures. The conspirators had
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
On 04.01.08 Don Armstrong (d...@donarmstrong.com) wrote:
Currently rubber does not deal properly with documents using
chapterbib, and attempts to call bibtex on the main document [which
fails] and does not call bibtex on the subsidary ones
Package: src:linux
Version: 3.11~rc4-1~exp1
Severity: minor
Please set CONFIG_HID_HUION=m; this driver handles a series of cheap
tablet input devices which was recently added to the kernel.
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2013, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
It would be nice if get_status in the soap interface could also return
the usertags.
It currently returns the tag but not the usertags...
It will return the usertags if you pass the results of get_usertags to
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implement the CGI with some sort of cache coupled with a response.
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; buxtehude.debian.org does not.
Thanks for the report; it's been forwarded to the administrators of the
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013, Moritz Both wrote:
thanks for your comment.
No problem; thanks for getting back to me.
On 05.08.2013 22:09, Don Armstrong wrote:
[...]
Could you do me a favor and install the libmilter1.0.1-dbg package, then
rerun the commands you ran on the coredump?
of course
that the above will be sufficient.]
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I just couldn't find an algorithm that fit.
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What prison taught me was that some people are born into a life where
they're going to be subjected to intense life experiences and personal
tragedy on an almost daily basis. [...] I don't think you get
enlightenment after
results which indicates that LJT is
actually faster than IJG?
3) Has LJT tried to get its changes adopted by IJG?
I'd also like to hear from Bill what the downsides are from his
perspective from switching to LJT from IJG if possible.
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Don Armstrong wrote:
http://bugs.debian.org/632949 has more information from a previous
discussion around 2011; I'm Cc:'ing that bug to make sure the logs have
a connection between the two.
The ITP for libjpeg-turbo also has some emails:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin
for the
psuedopackage, and that you will never be creating a real package in
Debian with that name?
1: Examples here: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages
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But if, after all, we are on the wrong track, what then? Only
source?
http://git.donarmstrong.com/?p=flightcrew.git;a=summary
What's the word from upstream regarding the license problem you found?
They responded once, but have not responded further, even though I have
pinged them three times already.
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On Thu, 04 Jul 2013, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:35:59PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
That would probably be worthwhile. Would you rather I put out a release,
or is running from git reasonable enough?
To be honest I would very much welcome a release.
Ok. I'll try
, but this will be fixed to use the
complete libravatar federated avatar system.
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soon, though, the rush from a test tube isn't enough. You want to
experiment more
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entheogens; it now took very unusual circumstances to attract public
attention to sightings of supernatural entities. The latest miracle
had raised
has the file as a separate object. If the browser cannot
render it, too bad.
Yeah, this is probably what I'll do. Right now, the BTS just serves
whatever the e-mail says to the end user.
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Of course, there are cases where only
reassign 700759 debian-policy
thanks
I believe that this bug only needs clarification in policy now, and does
not require the CTTE's attention.
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was successfully
injected on the webpage.
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I always thought
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add an
exclude/include argument as in the page then even better. :)
I think that should be ok for now.
Would a format=json or similar argument to the existing bugreport.cgi
and pkgreport.cgi pages be enough? [Or at least, the existing argument
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patch fixes this problem.
As a side note, could we please put the code for the scripts running on
cgi.debian.org into a publicly accessible VCS repository (ideally git)
on git.debian.org or similar?
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Clint why the hell does kernel
if what you're
sending looks like a subscribe or unsubscribe request. It probably
should be disabled for messages to debian-bugs-dist which are sent
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G: If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?
EB
of the members in a set are fixed. [Or alternatively,
I should change the rules to allow archived bugs to have their
blocks/blocked updated, or change the blocks/blocking to not be
reflexive as it currently is.]
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On Fri, 07 Jun 2013, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2013-06-06 14:18:58 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
Perhaps only using this method if the URL on the line is more than 60
characters long and less than 110 characters long will be enough to
catch most cases.
Yes, but 60 may be a bit too large
on the line is more than 60
characters long and less than 110 characters long will be enough to
catch most cases.
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creator, why don't you find it impossible
On Wed, 29 May 2013, Daniel Hartwig wrote:
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, 13 May 2013, Jakub Wilk wrote:
Apparently the blocked-by relation between #692286 and #708166 was
inverted.
Yeah; this is a bug in the cloning; I'll get a fix out for it soonish.
My perlfu
which lilypond packages you had installed before
upgrading? [I've probably not put in an appropriate set of Conflicts and
Replaces, but I'd like to be able to replicate this so I can be sure
I've fixed it.]
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Herodotus says, Very few
. This is one of the many reasons why GPLv2-only works are
problematic when they link with works under non-GPLv2 compliant licenses
without appropriate licensing exceptions.
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.
[Presumably, if you have removed a wamerican package, the postrm
should remove the dangling symlink.]
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On Thu, 16 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
See #694115 for an occurrence.
This has never been supported at all. This is a bug in reportbug for
sending the message this way.
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Control: severity -1 wishlist
Control: retitle -1 handle package:arch and package_version Package:
pseudoheaders more intelligently.
On Thu, 16 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 16 mai 13, 10:01:26, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
See #694115
debianbts.get_bugs('package', 'eeepc-acpi-scripts', 'bugs',
bugs,'archive','both')
[616542]
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The attackers hadn't simply robbed the bank. They had carried off
everything portable, including the security cameras, the carpets, the
chairs, and the light and plumbing fixtures. The conspirators had
deliberately punished
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-with and fixed-with or
something similar instead.
I'll have to think about this more before and get some more input I
start actually implementing this.
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Cheop's Law: Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget.
-- Robert
tags 706995 + patch
tags 706995 + pending
thanks
Dear maintainer,
I've prepared an NMU for gtable (versioned as 0.1.2-1.1) and
uploaded it to DELAYED/05. Please feel free to tell me if I
should delay it longer.
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6: I'm human. I
to a warning and result in @item being
interpreted as an @item and the offending packages fixed. [If you
search google for @itemx you'll see lots of other cases of things
failing to build.]
Don Armstrong
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I just didn't think them through.
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http
things, I'm going to NMU
it shortly unless you tell me otherwise. Thanks!
Don Armstrong
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to be True.
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