quire sysvinit to
be uninstalled (systemd and runit comes to mind, I would not be
surprised if there are more).
However, in the tradition of Essential packages, nowhere is it
well-defined which of sysvinits interfaces were part of the
essentialness and which are not. I kinda wish we'd fix th
]] Cameron Norman
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > ]] Cameron Norman
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:29:42PM -0800, Cameron Norman wrote:
> >&g
]] Timo Weingärtner
> 2014-10-24 14:27:16 Tollef Fog Heen:
> > Have the links created by triggers on /usr/bin/$arch-gcc.
>
> People might use clang instead of gcc, so IMO the triggers should be on some
> file in libc6-dev, perhaps /usr/lib/XXX/libc.so.
gcc is Build-Essentia
ct that the old node will be gone in stretch,
> means
> that it makes sense for nodejs to become node.
I think it's unfortunate that upstream chose node rather than nodejs as
the binary name, but think I think we should allow nodejs to use the
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Package: rebuildd
Severity: minor
The homepage of rebuildd is
https://julien.danjou.info/software/rebuildd, according to metadata in
the package, but this 404s.
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]] Charles Plessy
> Le Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 08:31:58PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> > Package: iptraf-ng
> > Version: 1:1.1.4-6
> > Severity: normal
> >
> > As of a few days ago, I started getting mails from logrotate complaining
> > about dupl
ecommends that Niko Tyni be
> appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee.
>
> N: Recommend to Appoint Niko Tyni
> F: Further Discussion
> ===END
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ian installations (and
corresponding versions).
#! lines are a bit special in this regard.
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icy change to go in (at least once the CTTE issues a
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severity 845987 serious
thanks
This bug makes planet-venus in stretch not work at all. I've manually
patched my installation with Jakob's patch and it has made planet-venus
work again for me.
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]] Tollef Fog Heen
> ]] Margarita Manterola
>
> > This is still true today. However, 5 years after the initial decision, the
> > use
> > of Node.js has kept growing to the point that it is by far the most expected
> > meaning of the word "node" in t
]] David Bremner
> Tollef Fog Heen writes:
>
> >
> > The Committee therefore resolves that:
> >
> > 1. The CTTE decision in from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907 is repealed.
> > 2. The nodejs package shall be free to provide /usr/bin/node.
> > 3. Other pac
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]] Ian Jackson
> Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Bug#862051: Allow nodejs to provide /usr/bin/node
> (draft resolution)"):
> > 1. The CTTE decision from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907 is repealed.
> >
> > This means Debian's normal policies and practices take ove
]] Ian Jackson
> Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Bug#862051: Allow nodejs to provide
> /usr/bin/node (draft resolution)"):
> > > Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Bug#862051: Allow nodejs to provide
> > > /usr/bin/node (draft resolution)"):
> > > >
using cloud-y bits.
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Package: prometheus-node-exporter
Version: 0.13.0+ds-1+b2
Severity: normal
Most systems don't need the daemon dependency since it's only used with
non-systemd setups. It should be demoted to a Suggests or Recommends
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ng to Debian's usual backwards-compatibility
arrangements.
=== End Resolution ===
R: Approve resolution and repeal the CTTE decision from 2012-07-12.
F: Further Discussion
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]] Tollef Fog Heen
> I call for votes on the following resolution with regards to #862051.
> The voting period lasts for one week or until the outcome is no longer
> in doubt (§6.3.1).
>
> === Resolution ===
>
> The Technical Committee recognises that circumstances chang
]] Tollef Fog Heen
> R: Approve resolution and repeal the CTTE decision from 2012-07-12.
> F: Further Discussion
with 7 votes for R and none for F, the result is no longer in doubt and
the CTTE decision from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907 is repealed.
I'll mail d-d-a about this now.
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It's basically system(3) on a concatenated
string with partial user-defined content vs execve(2) on a list of
arguments (some of which are user-provided).
perldoc -f exec and perldoc -f open might be useful.
Using open like in the code snippet above is pretty much inexcusable in
this day and age.
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(or whatever the
> locale has on it's road signs to indicate that you're heading out of
> town)
There is no such thing in my locale.
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Package: src:kubernetes
Severity: wishlist
As you probably know, Kubernetes 1.3 is out. Could we have this
packaged for Debian?
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iption : Cross-platform home directory retriever
>
> This Script can retrieve your Home Directory
Do we need a fourth node.js package to do this? We already have
node-resolve-dir, node-expand-tilde and node-osenv which all seems to do
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ase consider applying the
> attached patch. It also fixed -dbgsym generation.
This looks quite reasonable. Since it's not particularly urgent, I'll
leave it until we've released stretch so as to keep unstable open in
the unlikely case an upload is needed.
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]] Aarti Kashyap
Hi,
> Description : Get the PATH environment variable key cross-platform
This seems to be a subset of what node-osenv provides, can you use that
instead?
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]] Akash Sarda
> Description : Create a MD5 hash with hex encoding
node-md5-o-matic provides an md5 function that seems to do the same, can
you use that instead?
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weight them and to come to a solution where
> everyone can agree as much as possible.
I didn't read Sam's response as «we can't do anything», but rather that
we (the TC) are unwilling to override the d-i maintainers.
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]] Margarita Manterola
> Please vote [A] for acknowledging that this is under the jurisdiction of the
> debian-installer maintainers, and [FD] for Further Discussion.
I vote A > FD.
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he votes to override». The plural here is
crucial.
> The TC has the power to decide here, and you were asked to do so. If you
> think that d-i took the right decision, you should decide so (and then
> you don't need to use your power), but not just let them decide.
That's what the current ballot effectively says. We're refusing to
override the d-i team.
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ble compromise to reassign this bug to d-i tagging it
> RC for buster to make sure a Blends menu will exist in the buster
> installer.
While I think it's important to get it fixed for buster, I don't think
it's RC. If the d-i folks and/or the release team disagrees, I'm h
]] Michael Biebl
Hi Michael,
thanks for looking into this.
> Tollef, can you run
> systemctl reload syslog-ng.service
> and see if that works?
It seems to work:
: tfheen@minkus ~ > sudo systemctl reload syslog-ng.service
: tfheen@minkus ~ > echo $?
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ibopenconnect5 7.06-2+b2
ii libproxy1v5 0.4.13-1
ii libxml2 2.9.4+dfsg1-2.1
ii vpnc-scripts 0.1~git20150318-1
openconnect recommends no packages.
openconnect suggests no packages.
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]] Mike Miller
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 09:32:19 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > It seems like some newer versions of Juniper VPNs require you to send a
> > (fixed!) Content-Length header.
> >
> > http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/openconnect-devel/2016-Sept
ble and should be replaced for buster.
(I realise this doesn't answer the question in the bug report, but those
are some related thoughts.)
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could do this
without _too_ much work in the graphical version if they wanted, with
fallback code for the curses and text versions.
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thought properly through the tradeoffs, I'd generally be inclined to
trust them.
(In the particular case of gpg and gpg-agent, I generally think
dpkg-diverting it should be fine for debugging, since few systems that
have private key material on them should be multiuser systems.)
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ent enough, that policy should be improved.
The TC should not go out and overrule the release team's RC bug policy
unless we have a really good reason (and it's still not completely clear
that we can overrule them as a team either, but that entire discussion
is unneeded unless we want/n
ed, overlooked, forgotten about, either
> pre-Stretch or post-Stretch.
I would leave the desired process to the release team. I believe it'd be
tagging the individual bugs with stretch-ignore, since that's what's
looked at by tooling.
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your question would be 無, or at best just get
those packages into contrib and start on it immediately. There's always
a next release.
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]] Adrian Bunk
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 07:26:06PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> >...
> > I think it'd be preferable for the software to be in contrib (AFAIK
> > there's nothing here which is non-free?)
> >...
>
> When a package is not DFSG-free i
The problem is that packaging grunt is hard/too much work and
so won't be done for stretch and so those packages can't build using
tools only in Debian main.
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uch as ftpmaster or the release team. It's much more likely that we
can get the end result we're after by mediation or offering advice,
without anywhere near the same level of casualities.
The reason we asked for clarification from the secretary on this is so
we can reduce the amount of n
;t start out with threatening folks, that's not conductive to
a productive discussion.
Having cross-pkg-config look in a directory which is unlikely to contain
files for the architecture you are building for, is not particularly
useful and can in some cases be actively harmful.
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cron jobs, and hosts,
> along with obviously discrete elements like packages, services, and files.
> .
> This module manages both the installation and configuration of OpenStack
> Barbican.
It would be useful if this included some description of what OpenStack
Barbican is.
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rarily breaking people's workflows, which we might be the result if
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t;
> Gtags in Debian doesn't work with modern code base. Last time I tried (several
> years ago), it segfault'ed while trying to index Linux kernel.
FWIW, it worked fine in a test run I just did (on linux-4.9 rc 1), and
last time I used it, it also worked fine with the emacs inte
the work;
I disagree with those characterisations. He's asked for clarifications
on what is broken without anything resembling an adequate reply.
I'm not going to comment further on your personal attacks against the
maintainer. I think you're behaving below yourself and that you should
stop.
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can reset the value to 1.0 after startup.
(I disagree about this bug being minor, but I'm more interested in
seeing it fixed than quibbling about severities. :-)
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e the time and energy for being a member of the
roadmap team, so I'll let other people take that and run with it.
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maintain a version of
> that software with sysvinit support, and to talk with those volunteers
> about what shape that maintenance should take (e.g. working with
> upstream, providing a new upstream, providing patches to the existing
> pakage). Dropping such support the moment upstream does without any
> warning seems unreasonable.
Somewhat depending on the package and level of integration with
sysvinit/systemd, but I'm pretty much in agreement with you here as
well.
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mother used that" is not a good reason.
Good thing nobody used that as an argument, then.
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]] Pirate Praveen
> Following up on #830978. I would like this to be reopened and request
> CTTE make a formal vote.
What is the exact question you're trying to get us to answer? Are you
asking us for advice, are you asking us to overrule a developer or
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Hi again,
1.4 is out, getting that packaged would be great. Do you need a hand?
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]] Tollef Fog Heen
> ]] Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
>
> > ===BEGIN
> >
> > The Technical Committee recommends that Margarita Manterola be
> > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee.
> >
> > MM: Recommend to app
]] Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
> ===BEGIN
>
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> appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee.
>
> MM: Recommend to appoint Margarita Manterola
> FD: Further Discussion
>
> ==
d) compress="zstdmt -q ${compresslevel}"
# If we're not doing a reproducible build, enable multithreading
test -z "${SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH}" && compress="$compress -T0"
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Package: xsettingsd
Version: 1.0.2-1
Severity: wishlist
xsettingsd upstream ships with a .service file which makes this start
automatically when installed. Could this please be shipped with
xsettingsd?
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Package: rancid
Severity: normal
Version: 3.13-1
X-Debbugs-Cc: Tollef Fog Heen
I have a couple of routeros devices where rancid fails to work correctly
on them, since even though it logs in with +ct200w, routeros seems to
send a bunch of escapes. The last couple of lines of the .raw file
reads
Package: xkb-data
Version: 2.38-2
Severity: serious
Justification: makes a subset of systems effectively unusable
X-Debbugs-Cc: none, Tollef Fog Heen
With commit 0fb34101788d84e9a1d98b3730cc7b9295e0f19b in
xkeyboard-config, `group(alts_toggle)` changed behaviour in a way such
that the right alt
xpectations that maintainer scripts can have
about the environment they're running in, and how do we make those
expectations hold? This should probably then be documented in policy.
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]] Robie Basak
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 05:37:53PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > I think it's more wide than that: If you change UID, you need to
> > sanitise the environment. Your HOME is likely to be wrong. PATH might
> > very well be pointing at directories
essing, we can only
> do this for smaller applications than something like MariaDB/MySQL due
> the testing effort needed.
They solve completely different problems, though. One handles PAM
sessions, the other handles services.
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5)" };
};
Which looks pretty bizarre to me, and I have no idea what «us» does
there.
> In any case the issue is not severity "serious", especially not in a
> Debian distro context.
I'd argue that making people unable to write «@» is a release critical
bug in the package.
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you use. You
> never told us that, did you?
gnome-flashback on X11 (with xmonad, but I doubt that makes a
difference).
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]] Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> What's the output of this command:
>
> gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
$ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
['compose:caps', 'compose:caps', 'grp:alts_toggle', 'lv3:ralt_sw
]] Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> On 2023-08-28 13:42, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > ]] Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> >
> >> What's the output of this command:
> >>
> >> gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
> > $ gsettings get org.gnome
]] Sean Whitton
> Hello Tollef,
>
> Please M-x report-emacs-bug to send this upstream.
Done.
One additional detail is I only see this with the nvidia X11 driver, not
with Intel.
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l.cnf you are using.
[1]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=261349
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nd what seems to
| be the output of 'hostname -f'). Until now my setup always worked
| just fine. Am I doing something wrong and it worked fine until now
| just because of random luck or is the "hostname -f" change of
| ssl-cert causing unwanted problems? :)
I doubt it has anyt
example.
Isn't this use case covered well by cpipe, pv and similar tools?
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Version: 1.0.14
This bug was fixed a little time ago; closing by han now:
ssl-cert (1.0.14) unstable; urgency=low
* Updated debconf translations:
- tr, thanks to Mehmet Türker (Closes: #417551)
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workaround the problem in
| the meantime.
Remove the startup links?
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file a removal bug for that together with
the removal bug for libzvt2.0-0, that'd be good.
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-characters per POSIX; that's a bashism.
You can fix this by setting SHELL = /bin/bash in debian/rules or
change the pattern.
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x27;t depend on Perl).
Whether krb5-config depends on perl or not is irrelevant for the config
script; config scripts can only use essential packages.
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ug off the list - then I just have to
| accept the beatings from Christian for the implied addition of a new debconf
| template this late in the lenny freeze... :)
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Package: portmap
Severity: minor
It seems like the portmap postinst includes a check_md5 function which
isn't actually used at any point in the postinst.
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Package: pwgen
Severity: minor
from pwgen(1):
its default behavior is differs depending on whether the standard output
there's an extra «is» in that line and it should rather read:
its default behaviour differs depending on whether the standard output
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ly?
This would be the best solution, IMO.
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still be better than using /tmp as $TMP{,DIR}.
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* Marc Haber
| >It's probably not a security problem, though, as in it'll still be
| >better than using /tmp as $TMP{,DIR}.
|
| Is there any better possibility to solve the issue at hand?
Using su - instead of --chuid, might work. It's not pretty, though.
py, I just need the get a round tuit first.
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1.0.0/src/.svn/text-base/XSecurity.c.svn-base
libxext-1.0.0/src/.svn/text-base/Makefile.in.svn-base
[...]
Please don't ship those in the diff.
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Junichi Uekawa skrev:
auto-apt update
Downloading http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian//dists/unstable Contents-amd64.gz
...
Warning: "+number" syntax is deprecated, please use "-n +number"
put: 0 files, 0 entries done (0 sec)
FWIW, this works for me, even though I get the same warnings (which I'd
severity 376503 minor
thanks
* Martin Gruner
| severity critical
No, it's not critical. It's minor or wishlist unless you can come up
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tables were corrupt. That is why from my
| perspective critical is the right severity.
That's a bug in mysql, then, feel free to adjust the severity of the
new bug, but this one against apache is not a critical bug.
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I've reproduced this problem on Ubuntu as well, and it seems like it's
merely bugs in the test suite. The problems go away if you compile the
test suite with -O0 instead of -O2.
This is obviously not a correct fix, but it works around the problem.
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reassign 294052 libgnomeprint-data
thanks
I have no idea why this was filed against emacs, it's clearly not an
emacs bug that your font looks wrong.
I _think_ the urw nimbus sans is shipped in libgnomeprint-data, so
reassigning there. Please do reassign further if this is wrong.
- tfheen
acs21-21.4a/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,11 @@
+emacs21 (21.4a-3.2) unstable; urgency=low
+
+ * Non-maintainer upload
+ * Build-depend on libxaw7-dev to fix FTBFS. (closes: #365597 and merged
+friends)
+
+ -- Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 13 May 2006 08:34:53 +0200
+
emacs21
reassign 304169 ftp.debian.org
retitle 304169: RM: intuitively -- RoM; obsolete, alternatives exist
thanks
I'm somewhat sad to file this report as intuitively was my first package
in Debian, but it has now outlasted its usefulness. Please remove
intuitively from the archive.
- tfheen
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Please remove the cfengine package from the archive. It's dead upstream
and has been superseded by cfengine2.
- tfheen
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Raul Miller wrote:
Have you talked to the di people about this issue? Have they raised
any objections? If so, what are they? (We should get involved if you
feel that they are making a choice which is technically incorrect and
which you can't resolve directly.)
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