Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
* Marc Haber: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system without root privileges. The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why). Is that script publicly available or packaged? It is part of the security-testing Subversion repository. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system without root privileges. The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why). Is that script publicly available or packaged? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:05:13PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: Use http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/ddpo_packages, the 2nd and 3rd field in the [foo,bar,baz,.] bit are testing and unstable respectively. That's fully 404 compliant. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:14 AM, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:05:13PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: Use http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/ddpo_packages, the 2nd and 3rd field in the [foo,bar,baz,.] bit are testing and unstable respectively. That's fully 404 compliant. It should be http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/results/ddpo_packages. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
* Marc Haber: I want to check whether a given package has migrated from unstable to testing in a cron job, and this cron job should be able to run on a host that doesn't have a local archive. With the arrivale of Packages diffs, it's actually rather cheap (in terms of network bandwidth) to maintain a local mirror of the archive metadata. AFAICS, you only need the Sources files, so the disk space consumption shouldn't be an obstacle, either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:39:54AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: I want to check whether a given package has migrated from unstable to testing in a cron job, and this cron job should be able to run on a host that doesn't have a local archive. With the arrivale of Packages diffs, it's actually rather cheap (in terms of network bandwidth) to maintain a local mirror of the archive metadata. AFAICS, you only need the Sources files, so the disk space consumption shouldn't be an obstacle, either. Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system without root privileges. Additionally, parsing the Sources file is another challenge. And again additionally, I don't want to get alerts just because my mirror is down or desynced. I was rather content with parsing packages.debian.org output. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
* Marc Haber: With the arrivale of Packages diffs, it's actually rather cheap (in terms of network bandwidth) to maintain a local mirror of the archive metadata. AFAICS, you only need the Sources files, so the disk space consumption shouldn't be an obstacle, either. Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system without root privileges. The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why). Additionally, parsing the Sources file is another challenge. The existing code should be sufficient; after all, you only need the Package and Version field. And again additionally, I don't want to get alerts just because my mirror is down or desynced. At least you can fix those problems yourself. If the PTS were down (like pdo at the monent), there wouldn't be much you could do about it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On 01/02/06 at 09:43 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:39:54AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: I want to check whether a given package has migrated from unstable to testing in a cron job, and this cron job should be able to run on a host that doesn't have a local archive. With the arrivale of Packages diffs, it's actually rather cheap (in terms of network bandwidth) to maintain a local mirror of the archive metadata. AFAICS, you only need the Sources files, so the disk space consumption shouldn't be an obstacle, either. Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system without root privileges. Additionally, parsing the Sources file is another challenge. And again additionally, I don't want to get alerts just because my mirror is down or desynced. Have a look at MultiDistroTools[0]. I use a custom apt config to be able to run apt-get update as normal user for different distributions. It should be easy to adapt it to do what you want. [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiDistroTools -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I'm all for a CSS based layout. For automated use of the data, however, wouldn't it make sense to provide some kind of interface that is suitable for automated use? XML-RPC, or whatever, I'm not familiar with the technologies in question. An alternative might be to make the raw XML files used (internally) by the PTS available on the web. You can see the XML files in master:/org/packages.qa.debian.org/www/base Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
* Florian Weimer [Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:47:59 +0100]: * Marc Haber: With the arrivale of Packages diffs, it's actually rather cheap (in terms of network bandwidth) to maintain a local mirror of the archive metadata. AFAICS, you only need the Sources files, so the disk space consumption shouldn't be an obstacle, either. Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system without root privileges. The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why). Ooh, with pdiff support? -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. -- J.K. Galbraith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
* Adeodato Simó: The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why). Ooh, with pdiff support? Yes, of course. It only mirrors individual files and it's not terribly efficient -- a better implementation would rewrite the ed-style diffs into RCS-style diffs, combine them, and apply them to the stored file in a single pass. But even in its current implementation, it's better than downloading the whole file every day.
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
* Marc Haber: the output of the PTS (http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav-data.html) still uses a table-driven layout which is a bitch to parse. Why do you want to parse it in the first place? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:45:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: the output of the PTS (http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav-data.html) still uses a table-driven layout which is a bitch to parse. Why do you want to parse it in the first place? I want to check whether a given package has migrated from unstable to testing in a cron job, and this cron job should be able to run on a host that doesn't have a local archive. I used to do that from packages.debian.org, but that's offline for an extended period of time, so I had to look for alternatives. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
ti, 2006-01-31 kello 22:32 +0100, Marc Haber kirjoitti: On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:45:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: the output of the PTS (http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav-data.html) still uses a table-driven layout which is a bitch to parse. Why do you want to parse it in the first place? I want to check whether a given package has migrated from unstable to testing in a cron job, and this cron job should be able to run on a host that doesn't have a local archive. I'm all for a CSS based layout. For automated use of the data, however, wouldn't it make sense to provide some kind of interface that is suitable for automated use? XML-RPC, or whatever, I'm not familiar with the technologies in question. (Just an idea. I don't unfortunately have time to help with implementation.) -- Though spring is here, to me it is still September -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:32:57PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:45:14PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Haber: the output of the PTS (http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav-data.html) still uses a table-driven layout which is a bitch to parse. Why do you want to parse it in the first place? I want to check whether a given package has migrated from unstable to testing in a cron job, and this cron job should be able to run on a host that doesn't have a local archive. Use http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/ddpo_packages, the 2nd and 3rd field in the [foo,bar,baz,.] bit are testing and unstable respectively. --Jeroen -- Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber MSN; ICQ: 33944357) http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout
Package: qa.debian.org Severity: wishlist Hi, the output of the PTS (http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav-data.html) still uses a table-driven layout which is a bitch to parse. Please consider converting to CSS. Greetings Marc -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-zgsrv Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
