Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-24 Thread Michal Suchanek

Sandro Tosi wrote:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:38, Michal Suchanek
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote:

It should either depend on the updated version or detect if the argument is
supported and accordingly.


read policy about what should be in depends, recommends and suggets.


Suggests is not a fix for failure that occurs in common configuration.


Ask to apt maintainer to pull into the updated version in suggests, or
look at packages depends, and decide it yourself.



It seems reportbug always only suggested debsums so debsums were 
installed for completely different reason rather than resolving this 
suggest dependency.


Since reportbug cannot force debsums to be a particular version by 
suggests it should handle cleanly the case when debsums aren't the 
newest version.


Thanks

Michal



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Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-24 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:09, Michal Suchanek
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote:
 It seems reportbug always only suggested debsums so debsums were installed
 for completely different reason rather than resolving this suggest
 dependency.

Of course: if not present, it's not used.

 Since reportbug cannot force debsums to be a particular version by suggests
 it should handle cleanly the case when debsums aren't the newest version.

No. Check the package relationships with other packages, install the
relevant packages.

Now please stop.

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Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-24 Thread Michal Suchanek

On 09/24/2009 09:17 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote:

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:09, Michal Suchanek
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz  wrote:

It seems reportbug always only suggested debsums so debsums were installed
for completely different reason rather than resolving this suggest
dependency.


Of course: if not present, it's not used.


Since reportbug cannot force debsums to be a particular version by suggests
it should handle cleanly the case when debsums aren't the newest version.


No. Check the package relationships with other packages, install the
relevant packages.


No, that's the packager's and apt's job.

Since earlier version worked with my debsums and current does not this is 
certainly a regression.

debsums has a --version option so you can use its output and check it in your scripts or devise some 
other means.


Thanks

Michal



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Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-24 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 13:23, Michal Suchanek
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote:
 On 09/24/2009 09:17 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
 No. Check the package relationships with other packages, install the
 relevant packages.

 No, that's the packager's and apt's job.

I did mine: if you want to complain, go and knock on apt door

 Since earlier version worked with my debsums and current does not this is
 certainly a regression.

could you please turn on your brain? the version required is clearly
stated in reportbug suggests, now if you still want to use an older
version, that's ONLY YOUR FAULT. do YOU understand it or it's too
difficult?

 debsums has a --version option so you can use its output and check it in
 your scripts or devise some other means.

in no fscking way! should I support older versions? no. should I
support new versions and update the relevant information suggests?
yes. Did I do the last one? yes.

So, goodbye.

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Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi



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Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-24 Thread Michal Suchanek

On 09/24/2009 01:30 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 13:23, Michal Suchanek
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz  wrote:

On 09/24/2009 09:17 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote:

No. Check the package relationships with other packages, install the
relevant packages.


No, that's the packager's and apt's job.


I did mine: if you want to complain, go and knock on apt door


Suggests are not automatically installed. They need not, that's how they are 
defined.
No problem with apt here.




Since earlier version worked with my debsums and current does not this is
certainly a regression.


could you please turn on your brain? the version required is clearly
stated in reportbug suggests, now if you still want to use an older
version, that's ONLY YOUR FAULT. do YOU understand it or it's too
difficult?


I'm very well aware of exact cause of the problem. I do not want to check 
suggests of every package
I install on every machine, and I should not need to for well behaving packages.

Stop shouting, please.




debsums has a --version option so you can use its output and check it in
your scripts or devise some other means.


in no fscking way! should I support older versions? no. should I
support new versions and update the relevant information suggests?
yes. Did I do the last one? yes.



When new features are added it is nice to do so in a way that does not break 
existing features where
reasonably possible.

I think adding a version check is reasonably possible.

You clearly don't want to do so but that does not make the issue with this 
package disappear.

Thanks

Michal



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Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-24 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:39, Michal Suchanek
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote:
 On 09/24/2009 01:30 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 13:23, Michal Suchanek
 michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz  wrote:

 On 09/24/2009 09:17 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote:

 No. Check the package relationships with other packages, install the
 relevant packages.

 No, that's the packager's and apt's job.

 I did mine: if you want to complain, go and knock on apt door

 Suggests are not automatically installed. They need not, that's how they are
 defined.
 No problem with apt here.

neitehr with reportbug.

 Since earlier version worked with my debsums and current does not this is
 certainly a regression.

 could you please turn on your brain? the version required is clearly
 stated in reportbug suggests, now if you still want to use an older
 version, that's ONLY YOUR FAULT. do YOU understand it or it's too
 difficult?

 I'm very well aware of exact cause of the problem.

it doesn't seem so.

 I do not want to check
 suggests of every package I install on every machine, and I should not need
 to for well behaving packages.

again: YOU don't want to fix YOUR problem.

 Stop shouting, please.

I'll do when you'll stop bothering with false claims.

 debsums has a --version option so you can use its output and check it in
 your scripts or devise some other means.

 in no fscking way! should I support older versions? no. should I
 support new versions and update the relevant information suggests?
 yes. Did I do the last one? yes.


 When new features are added it is nice to do so in a way that does not break
 existing features where reasonably possible.

dlin dlon: please weak up. I added a feature that depends on a new
version of a package, and I set the new version in suggests. my work
is done.

 I think adding a version check is reasonably possible.

NO WAY.

 You clearly don't want to do so but that does not make the issue with this
 package disappear.

Ok, yeah, sure, keep going on this way. You know what? I'll ignore you
from now on. Invest your time in something else (fishing for example?)
and stop wasting my time fighting your clueless mind.

GO AWAY,
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Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi



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Bug#548046: --ignore-permissions breaks reportbug when not available

2009-09-23 Thread Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz
Package: reportbug
Version: 4.8
Severity: normal


/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:72: GtkWarning:
could not open display
  warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
*** Welcome to reportbug.  Use ? for help at prompts. ***
Detected character set: UTF-8
Please change your locale if this is incorrect.

Using 'Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz
michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz' as your from address.
Getting status for reportbug...
Verifying package integrity...
There may be a problem with your installation of reportbug;
the following problems were detected by debsums:
Unknown option: ignore-permissions
Try 'debsums --help' for more information.



-- Package-specific info:
** Environment settings:
DEBFULLNAME=Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz
INTERFACE=text

** /home/hramrach/.reportbugrc:
reportbug_version 3.39
mode standard
ui text
email michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz
header X-Debbugs-CC: hramr...@centrum.cz
smtphost dec59.ruk.cuni.cz

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.3
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.30-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL 
set to en_US.UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages reportbug depends on:
ii  apt  0.7.20.2+lenny1 Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  python   2.5.2-3 An interactive high-level object-o
ii  python-reportbug 4.8 Python modules for interacting wit

reportbug recommends no packages.

Versions of packages reportbug suggests:
pn  debconf-utils none (no description available)
ii  debsums   2.0.36 verification of installed package 
pn  dlocate   none (no description available)
ii  file  4.26-1 Determines file type using magic
ii  gnupg 1.4.9-3+lenny1 GNU privacy guard - a free PGP rep
ii  python-gtk2   2.12.1-6   Python bindings for the GTK+ widge
pn  python-gtkspell   none (no description available)
pn  python-urwid  none (no description available)
pn  python-vtenone (no description available)
ii  ssmtp [mail-transport-age 2.62-3 extremely simple MTA to get mail o
pn  xdg-utils none (no description available)

-- no debconf information

-- debsums errors found:
Unknown option: ignore-permissions
Try 'debsums --help' for more information.



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