Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-13 Thread Norbert Preining
SOrry guys, I guess I have to say good-bye to ibus.

I removed all ibus components, installed fcitx, and now, out of nothing,
everything works. Per window setting, Japanese input in firefox/iceweasel,
...

I guess it is time for me to drop ibus.

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-13 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 I would propose to re-upload 1.4 with a new epoch to unstable, to
 unbreak current sitatuon.

I prefer Let IBus be IBus.
Debian is not a one-stop shop like some other distros.
I guess we don't have to hide something from the users.

 Or do you see any chance that ibus upstream fixes this?

No, that issue is not new; bothered some users in Fedora 17 already.
I've contacted origin developer of IBus in private mail but no related
action take place.


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-13 Thread Aron Xu
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 Here is a relevant commit, though I'm not sure this is the whole story:
 https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/53d33ec4e6ad41a116f25cfa7ce12e04f6f93752

 Seen that, it is huge, not sure reverting it would help.
 There are too many code changes there. I have the feeling this
 is a catch all commit and not really one commit for one thing.
 THat makes revering much harder.

 On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
 I believe that it is removed since changing dconf key has no effect either.

 Argh, that is a good point, if chanigng dconf key does not work,
 all hope is lost.

 I would propose to re-upload 1.4 with a new epoch to unstable, to
 unbreak current sitatuon.

 Or do you see any chance that ibus upstream fixes this?


Do you think uploading as something like 1.5.1a.is.1.4.2 will work?
It's complicated but avoids epoch... We can wait until ibus upstream
provides a reasonable release and then continue the versioning.


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-13 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 Do you think uploading as something like 1.5.1a.is.1.4.2 will work?

Should work I guess, if you really want to avoid epochs.
Just try with
dpkg --compare-version 1.5.1-2 lt 1.5.1a.is.1.4.2-1
?

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-13 Thread Aron Xu
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 Do you think uploading as something like 1.5.1a.is.1.4.2 will work?

 Should work I guess, if you really want to avoid epochs.
 Just try with
 dpkg --compare-version 1.5.1-2 lt 1.5.1a.is.1.4.2-1
 ?


I've uploaded as 1.5.1.is.1.4.2-1, this is smaller than 1.5.2 anyway.
I'll rebuild ibus-chewing once the 1.4.2 version is published, and
asked ftp-masters to reject ibus-any/1.5.0-1 in NEW.

I'll continue the work for 1.5.x in experimental after this revert,
but the time will be at least next week.


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Ma Xiaojun
Hi, all.

FYI, manually compiled IBus 1.5.0 works fine on my Ubuntu 12.10 box
(with MATE as DE); I have used that box for many days.

For errors like ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for IBus
Have you installed GI stuff properly?
Have you got gir1.2-ibus-1.0 installed?


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Ma,

On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
 FYI, manually compiled IBus 1.5.0 works fine on my Ubuntu 12.10 box
 (with MATE as DE); I have used that box for many days.

- separate IME for different windows is working?
- did you try gnome3 (gnome-shell)?

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Aron Xu
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Hi Ma,

 On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
 FYI, manually compiled IBus 1.5.0 works fine on my Ubuntu 12.10 box
 (with MATE as DE); I have used that box for many days.

 - separate IME for different windows is working?

AFAIK this feature is removed, but not simply caused by bug.


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
  - separate IME for different windows is working?
 
 AFAIK this feature is removed, but not simply caused by bug.

Ok, maybe I was wrong with my explanation: What about the
*activation*status*
of the IME? Before I had the option to have some windows with Japanese
input, and some with system kbd.

Is this really gone? (BTW, even if they remove it, I would consider
it a bug that should be reintroduced upstream )

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Is this really gone? (BTW, even if they remove it, I would consider
 it a bug that should be reintroduced upstream )

Yes.
http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1568

But GNOME blog says such feature is reintroduced in GNOME 3.7.4, not
verified by any means.
http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/14/input-sources-in-gnome-3-7-4-continued/


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Ma,

thanks for your email, good research, horrible reading
(GNome devs are *sick*, removing features without understanding
their imprtance)

On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
  Is this really gone? (BTW, even if they remove it, I would consider
  it a bug that should be reintroduced upstream )
 
 Yes.
 http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1568

Yeah, but this is ALL about gnome 3.6, but we are
discussing here Debian/unstable for now, that menas
gnome 3.4
ibus 1.5
at the moment.

It seems, from my reading of that bug report
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684210

that ibus 1.5 still has this capability, but it is not exposed
in 1.5, and there is an easy way to get it back.

 But GNOME blog says such feature is reintroduced in GNOME 3.7.4, not
 verified by any means.
 http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/14/input-sources-in-gnome-3-7-4-continued/

Also in the above mentioned bugzilla report it is confirmed that
a patch is pushed to the panel code.


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Aron Xu
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Hi Ma,

 thanks for your email, good research, horrible reading
 (GNome devs are *sick*, removing features without understanding
 their imprtance)

 On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
  Is this really gone? (BTW, even if they remove it, I would consider
  it a bug that should be reintroduced upstream )

 Yes.
 http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1568

 Yeah, but this is ALL about gnome 3.6, but we are
 discussing here Debian/unstable for now, that menas
 gnome 3.4
 ibus 1.5
 at the moment.

 It seems, from my reading of that bug report
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684210

 that ibus 1.5 still has this capability, but it is not exposed
 in 1.5, and there is an easy way to get it back.


The option has been hidden in ibus-setup, but I'm worry that whether
ibus 1.5 itself has removed the capability.

Here is a relevant commit, though I'm not sure this is the whole story:
https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/53d33ec4e6ad41a116f25cfa7ce12e04f6f93752


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com wrote:
 The option has been hidden in ibus-setup, but I'm worry that whether
 ibus 1.5 itself has removed the capability.

I believe that it is removed since changing dconf key has no effect either.

For IBus (1.4.99+) + GNOME combo, it really depend on which IBus UI is
being used.
For 3.4 in particular, it means IBus built-in UI or ibsu-gjs, they
don't have capacity of local IM state AFAIK.


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi,

On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 Here is a relevant commit, though I'm not sure this is the whole story:
 https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/53d33ec4e6ad41a116f25cfa7ce12e04f6f93752

Seen that, it is huge, not sure reverting it would help. 
There are too many code changes there. I have the feeling this
is a catch all commit and not really one commit for one thing.
THat makes revering much harder.

On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
 I believe that it is removed since changing dconf key has no effect either.

Argh, that is a good point, if chanigng dconf key does not work,
all hope is lost.

I would propose to re-upload 1.4 with a new epoch to unstable, to
unbreak current sitatuon.

Or do you see any chance that ibus upstream fixes this?


Norbert


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-09 Thread Aron Xu
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Hi Aron,

 On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 The problem seems to be a easy one, just install gir1.2-ibus-1.0 and
 ibus-setup/ibus-daemon will work without problem. I'll upload new
 version very soon.

 I just saw in the git repo:
 ibus (1.5.1-2) unstable; urgency=low

   * debian/control:
 _ ibus Depends on gir1.2-ibus-1.0 (Closes: #700076).

  -- Aron Xu a...@debian.org  Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:58:41 +0800

 Upf, no, as I said.

 Norbert


It's not the complete thing I would upload, sorry for not setting the
release to UNRELEASED...


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Feb  9, 2013 at 00:42:29 +0800, Aron Xu wrote:

 Thanks for the report, I was on train when I first saw the report,
 I'll deal with it very soon.
 
Why was that thing uploaded to sid anyway...  We're in the middle of a
freeze, breaking sid is not particularly helpful...

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-09 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Julien Cristau wrote:
 Why was that thing uploaded to sid anyway...  We're in the middle of a
 freeze, breaking sid is not particularly helpful...

Breaking sid has no connection to freeze and release, if the maintainer
do not plan to ask for a freeze exception.

Don't go overboard, bugs against sid are not RC bugs, and thus 
irrelevant to the release.

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-09 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 04:01 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
 On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Julien Cristau wrote:
  Why was that thing uploaded to sid anyway...  We're in the middle of a
  freeze, breaking sid is not particularly helpful...
 
 Breaking sid has no connection to freeze and release, if the maintainer
 do not plan to ask for a freeze exception.

It might be an issue for the release if any of the reverse dependencies
need an update for some other reason, given that the new ibus upload
changes SONAME..,

Regards,

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-09 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 It might be an issue for the release if any of the reverse dependencies
 need an update for some other reason, given that the new ibus upload
 changes SONAME..,

Ok, conceeded. Indeed in this case upload to experimental would have been
better.

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-09 Thread Aron Xu
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 It might be an issue for the release if any of the reverse dependencies
 need an update for some other reason, given that the new ibus upload
 changes SONAME..,

 Ok, conceeded. Indeed in this case upload to experimental would have been
 better.



Rational is that I've observed quite some users starting to use
packages converted from rpm using alien because they have been waiting
too long. At the same time uploading to experimental helps very little
for testing (as I've already done for 1.4.99*) because when it breaks
people think that's normal. This is a shame, I'd like to change it.



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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 06:40:15PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
 Package: ibus
 Version: 1.5.1-1

a similar statement goes for the predecessor version,
1.4.99.20120917-3. I get that same import error, too.

I really hoped that 1.5.1 would fix, not exacerbate or continue,
the situation.

I don't run Gnome, however - only a pure 'awesome', with no custom
configuration.



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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:12:40AM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 06:40:15PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
  Package: ibus
  Version: 1.5.1-1
 
 a similar statement goes for the predecessor version,
 1.4.99.20120917-3. I get that same import error, too.
 
 I really hoped that 1.5.1 would fix, not exacerbate or continue,
 the situation.
 
 I don't run Gnome, however - only a pure 'awesome', with no custom
 configuration.

This is somewhat expected complication which I am no expert to explain.

Aron,

What we need is a wiki.debian.org/ibus page which describes post-1.5
migration howto.  I am sure you have already done some.

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear all,

thanks for taking care for that.

On Fr, 08 Feb 2013, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 This is somewhat expected complication which I am no expert to explain.
 
 Aron,
 
 What we need is a wiki.debian.org/ibus page which describes post-1.5
 migration howto.  I am sure you have already done some.

I see, but shouldn't that be taken care of automatically? If the
upgrade needs user interaction of *every* user that looks like a big
problem. If it is the sysadm who needs to change something, shouldn't
this be done during postinst?

And, what is it? I would like to get my Japanese input running again ;-)

Thanks

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Aron Xu
Thanks for the report, I was on train when I first saw the report,
I'll deal with it very soon.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Package: ibus
 Version: 1.5.1-1
 Severity: grave
 Justification: renders package unusable

 Hi,

 I am trying to run ibus from experimental, but it does not work
 at all anymore. Ctrl-Space does not activate anything,
 LEFT clicking on the GNOME kbd indicator in the top bar does only
 show a small grey rectangle (2px by 10px or so).

 RIGHT clicking on the indicator an selecting preferences has no effect.

 RIGHT clicking and selecting restart has no effect.

 Starting
 ibus-setup
 from the command line produces
 ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for IBus
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/ibus/setup/main.py, line 30, in module
 from gi.repository import IBus
 ImportError: cannot import name IBus

 In the syslog/dmesg I see
 traps: ibus-dconf[7263] trap int3 ip:7f91ae830491 sp:7fff79687c00 error:0

 Thanks

 Norbert

 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: 7.0
   APT prefers unstable
   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
 Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

 Kernel: Linux 3.8.0-rc6+ (SMP w/4 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

 Versions of packages ibus depends on:
 ii  dconf-gsettings-backend [gsettings-backend]  0.12.1-3
 ii  gnome-icon-theme 3.4.0-2
 ii  libatk1.0-0  2.4.0-2
 ii  libc62.13-38
 ii  libdconf00.12.1-3
 ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0   2.26.1-1
 ii  libglib2.0-0 2.33.12+really2.32.4-5
 ii  libgtk-3-0   3.4.2-6
 ii  libgtk2.0-0  2.24.10-2
 ii  libibus-1.0-51.5.1-1
 ii  libpango1.0-01.30.0-1
 ii  librsvg2-common  2.36.1-1
 ii  libx11-6 2:1.5.0-1
 ii  libxi6   2:1.6.1-1
 ii  python   2.7.3-3
 ii  python-ibus  1.5.1-1
 ii  python-notify0.1.1-3
 ii  python-xdg   0.19-5

 Versions of packages ibus recommends:
 ii  ibus-clutter   0.0+git20090728.a936bacf-5
 ii  ibus-gtk   1.5.1-1
 ii  ibus-gtk3  1.5.1-1
 ii  ibus-qt4   1.3.1-2.1
 ii  im-config [im-switch]  0.20

 Versions of packages ibus suggests:
 pn  ibus-doc  none

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Aron Xu
Hi,

The problem seems to be a easy one, just install gir1.2-ibus-1.0 and
ibus-setup/ibus-daemon will work without problem. I'll upload new
version very soon.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 Package: ibus
 Version: 1.5.1-1
 Severity: grave
 Justification: renders package unusable

 Hi,

 I am trying to run ibus from experimental, but it does not work
 at all anymore. Ctrl-Space does not activate anything,
 LEFT clicking on the GNOME kbd indicator in the top bar does only
 show a small grey rectangle (2px by 10px or so).

 RIGHT clicking on the indicator an selecting preferences has no effect.

 RIGHT clicking and selecting restart has no effect.

 Starting
 ibus-setup
 from the command line produces
 ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for IBus
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/ibus/setup/main.py, line 30, in module
 from gi.repository import IBus
 ImportError: cannot import name IBus

 In the syslog/dmesg I see
 traps: ibus-dconf[7263] trap int3 ip:7f91ae830491 sp:7fff79687c00 error:0

 Thanks

 Norbert

 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: 7.0
   APT prefers unstable
   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
 Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

 Kernel: Linux 3.8.0-rc6+ (SMP w/4 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

 Versions of packages ibus depends on:
 ii  dconf-gsettings-backend [gsettings-backend]  0.12.1-3
 ii  gnome-icon-theme 3.4.0-2
 ii  libatk1.0-0  2.4.0-2
 ii  libc62.13-38
 ii  libdconf00.12.1-3
 ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0   2.26.1-1
 ii  libglib2.0-0 2.33.12+really2.32.4-5
 ii  libgtk-3-0   3.4.2-6
 ii  libgtk2.0-0  2.24.10-2
 ii  libibus-1.0-51.5.1-1
 ii  libpango1.0-01.30.0-1
 ii  librsvg2-common  2.36.1-1
 ii  libx11-6 2:1.5.0-1
 ii  libxi6   2:1.6.1-1
 ii  python   2.7.3-3
 ii  python-ibus  1.5.1-1
 ii  python-notify0.1.1-3
 ii  python-xdg   0.19-5

 Versions of packages ibus recommends:
 ii  ibus-clutter   0.0+git20090728.a936bacf-5
 ii  ibus-gtk   1.5.1-1
 ii  ibus-gtk3  1.5.1-1
 ii  ibus-qt4   1.3.1-2.1
 ii  im-config [im-switch]  0.20

 Versions of packages ibus suggests:
 pn  ibus-doc  none

 -- no debconf information

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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Aron,

thanks for your message.

On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 The problem seems to be a easy one, just install gir1.2-ibus-1.0 and
 ibus-setup/ibus-daemon will work without problem. I'll upload new
 version very soon.

No, I *have* gir1.2-ibus-1.0 installed and it does not work.
It is not that simple.

Norbert


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Bug#700076: [Pkg-ime-devel] Bug#700076: ibus: non-functional, setup breaks

2013-02-08 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Aron,

On Sa, 09 Feb 2013, Aron Xu wrote:
 The problem seems to be a easy one, just install gir1.2-ibus-1.0 and
 ibus-setup/ibus-daemon will work without problem. I'll upload new
 version very soon.

I just saw in the git repo:
ibus (1.5.1-2) unstable; urgency=low

  * debian/control:
_ ibus Depends on gir1.2-ibus-1.0 (Closes: #700076).

 -- Aron Xu a...@debian.org  Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:58:41 +0800

Upf, no, as I said.

Norbert


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