Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Scott Kitterman]

On Tuesday, July 04, 2017 06:38:56 PM you wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:13:49AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:15:25 +0300 Andrew Shadura  
wrote:
> > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:36:06 +0100 Jonathan Wiltshire 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Package: ftp.debian.org
> > > > Severity: normal
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > get-iplayer has had to be pulled from wheezy, and pulled from jessie
> > > > during that freeze. It wasn't in stretch.
> > > > 
> > > > Changes upstream are frequent and invasive enough (because of the
> > > > every-shifting service get-iplayer tries to work with) that I have
> > > > come
> > > > to the conclusion it is never going to be in stable.
> > > > 
> > > > There's therefore little point it being in sid, either.
> > > 
> > > Well, I still find it useful in sid.
> > 
> > Would this be better as a maintainer change than a removal?
> 
> I'm happy for it to be adopted, but I still don't think unstable is the
> right place for this. Packages there are meant to be destined for testing
> even if they can't migrate immediately.
> 
> Maybe a PPA or something would be more suitable.

It got no takers so I've gone ahead with the removal.

Scott K

Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

Hi,

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:13:49AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:15:25 +0300 Andrew Shadura  wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:36:06 +0100 Jonathan Wiltshire 
> > wrote:
> > > Package: ftp.debian.org
> > > Severity: normal
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > get-iplayer has had to be pulled from wheezy, and pulled from jessie
> > > during that freeze. It wasn't in stretch.
> > > 
> > > Changes upstream are frequent and invasive enough (because of the
> > > every-shifting service get-iplayer tries to work with) that I have come
> > > to the conclusion it is never going to be in stable.
> > > 
> > > There's therefore little point it being in sid, either.
> > 
> > Well, I still find it useful in sid.
> 
> Would this be better as a maintainer change than a removal?

I'm happy for it to be adopted, but I still don't think unstable is the
right place for this. Packages there are meant to be destined for testing
even if they can't migrate immediately.

Maybe a PPA or something would be more suitable.

Thanks,

-- 
Jonathan Wiltshire  j...@debian.org
Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Scott Kitterman]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:10:29 + Scott Kitterman  
wrote:
> 
> 
> On June 24, 2017 4:03:05 PM EDT, Jack Underwood  wrote:
> >My two cents:
> >
> >1) People can still install from unstable, so it does still provide a
> >purpose, so long as the package stays up-to date to follow changes.
> >
> >2) The flash plugin also seems quite unstable and yet we have that in
> >stable, I have lost track of how many times I have gone into firefox
> >and seen the error message that it has blocked flash because of
> >security, and no update available from the debian package, sometimesI
> >have waited weeks for the update to make its way through to debian...
> 
> The current maintainer has decided not to maintain the package anymore and 
believes it is better to remove it.
> 
> Given the fast moving target it support, I agree that unmaintained, it is 
better to remove it.
> 
> Are you volunteering to take over package maintenence?
> 
> Scott K
> 
AFAIK, no one jumped up to take it, so going ahead.

Scott K

Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Scott Kitterman]

On June 24, 2017 4:03:05 PM EDT, Jack Underwood 
 wrote:
>My two cents:
>
>1) People can still install from unstable, so it does still provide a
>purpose, so long as the package stays up-to date to follow changes.
>
>2) The flash plugin also seems quite unstable and yet we have that in
>stable, I have lost track of how many times I have gone into firefox
>and seen the error message that it has blocked flash because of
>security, and no update available from the debian package, sometimesI
>have waited weeks for the update to make its way through to debian...

The current maintainer has decided not to maintain the package anymore and 
believes it is better to remove it.

Given the fast moving target it support, I agree that unmaintained, it is 
better to remove it.

Are you volunteering to take over package maintenence?

Scott K

Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Jack Underwood]

My two cents:

1) People can still install from unstable, so it does still provide a purpose, 
so long as the package stays up-to date to follow changes.

2) The flash plugin also seems quite unstable and yet we have that in stable, I 
have lost track of how many times I have gone into firefox and seen the error 
message that it has blocked flash because of security, and no update available 
from the debian package, sometimesI have waited weeks for the update to make 
its way through to debian...

Best,Jack

Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Scott Kitterman]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:15:25 +0300 Andrew Shadura  wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:36:06 +0100 Jonathan Wiltshire 
> wrote:
> > Package: ftp.debian.org
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > get-iplayer has had to be pulled from wheezy, and pulled from jessie
> > during that freeze. It wasn't in stretch.
> > 
> > Changes upstream are frequent and invasive enough (because of the
> > every-shifting service get-iplayer tries to work with) that I have come
> > to the conclusion it is never going to be in stable.
> > 
> > There's therefore little point it being in sid, either.
> 
> Well, I still find it useful in sid.

Would this be better as a maintainer change than a removal?

Scott K

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Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Andrew Shadura]

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:36:06 +0100 Jonathan Wiltshire 
wrote:
> Package: ftp.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> 
> Hi,
> 
> get-iplayer has had to be pulled from wheezy, and pulled from jessie
> during that freeze. It wasn't in stretch.
> 
> Changes upstream are frequent and invasive enough (because of the
> every-shifting service get-iplayer tries to work with) that I have come
> to the conclusion it is never going to be in stable.
> 
> There's therefore little point it being in sid, either.

Well, I still find it useful in sid.

-- 
Cheers,
  Andrew

Bug#865290: RM: get-iplayer -- ROM; unsuitable for stable releases

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

Hi,

get-iplayer has had to be pulled from wheezy, and pulled from jessie
during that freeze. It wasn't in stretch.

Changes upstream are frequent and invasive enough (because of the
every-shifting service get-iplayer tries to work with) that I have come
to the conclusion it is never going to be in stable.

There's therefore little point it being in sid, either.

Thanks,

--
Jonathan Wiltshire  j...@debian.org
Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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