Bug#923153: openssh-server: OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell" /etc/init.d/ssh
Ok. I give up. Do what you like. It's not important. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSSH "OpenSSH (also known as OpenBSD Secure Shell) ..."
Bug#923153: openssh-server: OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell" /etc/init.d/ssh
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 07:37:10PM +0900, IKEDA Shigeru wrote: > OpenSSH is not short hand or something for "OpenBSD secure shell", and > that sentence in README file doesn't say that too. I didn't claim that OpenSSH was a shorthand for it, merely that it was a reasonably accurate description. > OpenSSH is just OpenSSH. Why can't we call it just OpenSSH? The *name* of the project is certainly OpenSSH. However, the text in question is a *description*. The point of a description is to *describe*. Simply restating the name does nothing to help people who don't already know what it is (I mean, sure, they could search the web, but we often describe things locally despite that possibility). "Secure shell server" would be insufficient because there are other secure shell servers in Debian. "OpenSSH secure shell server" would be possible, but feels ugly and redundant because the "SSH" part of the name really does stand for "secure shell". The current text of "OpenBSD Secure Shell server" seems like a reasonable compromise between explanatory power and brevity to me. It attributes the primary developers of the code in question, avoiding ambiguity with other implementations in the process; it briefly explains what the service does; and it isn't repetitive. (I don't see the point of changing it to "OpenBSD's Secure Shell server", as suggested in your later patch.) I don't see the problem here at all. What problem are you actually trying to solve with this? Are you an upstream developer protesting a misnaming (in which case please identify yourself as such, since I don't recognise you)? Otherwise, while this isn't the most important issue in the world to me, I don't want to make a change without understanding what the problem is, since otherwise I don't have a good response when somebody files a bug about whatever the text might change to. Also, for the purposes of interacting with the Debian bug tracking system, please pick a name to use in your From: header and stick to it. I don't care whether it's your real name or a pseudonym, but when you send three emails to the same bug thread using a different name for all three, it looks as though you're intentionally trying to suggest support from multiple people. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Bug#923153: openssh-server: OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell" /etc/init.d/ssh
If you guys really want to include the word 'OpenBSD', here is alternate patch. --- openssh-server.ssh.init 2019-02-09 01:26:35.0 +0900 +++ openssh-server.ssh.init.corrected 2019-02-26 19:40:38.742657219 +0900 @@ -6,12 +6,12 @@ # Required-Stop: $remote_fs $syslog # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 # Default-Stop: -# Short-Description: OpenBSD Secure Shell server +# Short-Description: OpenBSD's Secure Shell server ### END INIT INFO set -e -# /etc/init.d/ssh: start and stop the OpenBSD "secure shell(tm)" daemon +# /etc/init.d/ssh: start and stop the OpenBSD's "secure shell(tm)" daemon test -x /usr/sbin/sshd || exit 0 ( /usr/sbin/sshd -\? 2>&1 | grep -q OpenSSH ) 2>/dev/null || exit 0 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ log_end_msg 0 || true fi if ! run_by_init; then -log_action_msg "OpenBSD Secure Shell server not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run)" || true +log_action_msg "OpenBSD's Secure Shell server not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run)" || true fi exit 0 fi @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ check_privsep_dir check_for_no_start check_dev_null - log_daemon_msg "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Starting OpenBSD's Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true if start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd -- $SSHD_OPTS; then log_end_msg 0 || true else @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ fi ;; stop) - log_daemon_msg "Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Stopping OpenBSD's Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true if start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /run/sshd.pid; then log_end_msg 0 || true else @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ reload|force-reload) check_for_no_start check_config - log_daemon_msg "Reloading OpenBSD Secure Shell server's configuration" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Reloading OpenBSD's Secure Shell server's configuration" "sshd" || true if start-stop-daemon --stop --signal 1 --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd; then log_end_msg 0 || true else @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ restart) check_privsep_dir check_config - log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenBSD's Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --retry 30 --pidfile /run/sshd.pid check_for_no_start log_end_msg check_dev_null log_end_msg @@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ try-restart) check_privsep_dir check_config - log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenBSD's Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true RET=0 start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --retry 30 --pidfile /run/sshd.pid || RET="$?" case $RET in
Bug#923153: openssh-server: OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell" /etc/init.d/ssh
OpenSSH is not short hand or something for "OpenBSD secure shell", and that sentence in README file doesn't say that too. OpenSSH is just OpenSSH. Why can't we call it just OpenSSH? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:36 PM Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 11:48:55PM +0900, Hocus Pocus wrote: > > OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell". That's it. > > In what sense is it not? I mean, OpenSSH's README file says: > > This is the port of OpenBSD's excellent OpenSSH[0] to Linux and other > Unices. > > -- > Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Bug#923153: openssh-server: OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell" /etc/init.d/ssh
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 11:48:55PM +0900, Hocus Pocus wrote: > OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell". That's it. In what sense is it not? I mean, OpenSSH's README file says: This is the port of OpenBSD's excellent OpenSSH[0] to Linux and other Unices. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org]
Bug#923153: openssh-server: OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell" /etc/init.d/ssh
Package: openssh-server Version: 1:7.7p1-4ubuntu0.2 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, OpenSSH is not "OpenBSD Secure Shell". That's it. So /etc/init.d/ssh should changed. Here is the patch. --- openssh-server.ssh.init 2019-02-09 01:26:35.0 +0900 +++ openssh-server.ssh.init.new 2019-02-24 23:36:26.415783651 +0900 @@ -6,12 +6,12 @@ # Required-Stop: $remote_fs $syslog # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 # Default-Stop: -# Short-Description: OpenBSD Secure Shell server +# Short-Description: OpenSSH server ### END INIT INFO set -e -# /etc/init.d/ssh: start and stop the OpenBSD "secure shell(tm)" daemon +# /etc/init.d/ssh: start and stop the OpenSSH daemon test -x /usr/sbin/sshd || exit 0 ( /usr/sbin/sshd -\? 2>&1 | grep -q OpenSSH ) 2>/dev/null || exit 0 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ log_end_msg 0 || true fi if ! run_by_init; then - log_action_msg "OpenBSD Secure Shell server not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run)" || true + log_action_msg "OpenSSH server not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run)" || true fi exit 0 fi @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ check_privsep_dir check_for_no_start check_dev_null - log_daemon_msg "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Starting OpenSSH server" "sshd" || true if start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd -- $SSHD_OPTS; then log_end_msg 0 || true else @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ fi ;; stop) - log_daemon_msg "Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Stopping OpenSSH server" "sshd" || true if start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /run/sshd.pid; then log_end_msg 0 || true else @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ reload|force-reload) check_for_no_start check_config - log_daemon_msg "Reloading OpenBSD Secure Shell server's configuration" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Reloading OpenSSH server's configuration" "sshd" || true if start-stop-daemon --stop --signal 1 --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd; then log_end_msg 0 || true else @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ restart) check_privsep_dir check_config - log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenSSH server" "sshd" || true start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --retry 30 --pidfile /run/sshd.pid check_for_no_start log_end_msg check_dev_null log_end_msg @@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ try-restart) check_privsep_dir check_config - log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server" "sshd" || true + log_daemon_msg "Restarting OpenSSH server" "sshd" || true RET=0 start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --retry 30 --pidfile /run/sshd.pid || RET="$?" case $RET in -- System Information: Debian Release: buster/sid APT prefers cosmic-updates APT policy: (500, 'cosmic-updates'), (500, 'cosmic-security'), (500, 'cosmic'), (100, 'cosmic-backports') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 4.18.0-15-generic (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages openssh-server depends on: ii adduser3.117ubuntu1 ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.69 ii dpkg 1.19.0.5ubuntu5 ii libaudit1 1:2.8.3-1ubuntu2 ii libc6 2.28-0ubuntu1 ii libcom-err21.44.4-2ubuntu0.2 ii libgssapi-krb5-2 1.16-2ubuntu1.1 ii libkrb5-3 1.16-2ubuntu1.1 ii libpam-modules 1.1.8-3.6ubuntu2 ii libpam-runtime 1.1.8-3.6ubuntu2 ii libpam0g 1.1.8-3.6ubuntu2 ii libselinux12.8-1build1 ii libssl1.0.01.0.2n-1ubuntu6.1 ii libsystemd0239-7ubuntu10.8 ii libwrap0 7.6.q-27 ii lsb-base 9.20170808ubuntu1 ii openssh-client 1:7.7p1-4ubuntu0.2 ii openssh-sftp-server1:7.7p1-4ubuntu0.2 ii procps 2:3.3.15-2ubuntu1 ii ucf3.0038 ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-0ubuntu2 Versions of packages openssh-server recommends: ii libpam-systemd 239-7ubuntu10.8 ii ncurses-term6.1+20180210-4ubuntu1 ii ssh-import-id 5.7-24-g4001a38e-0ubuntu1 ii xauth 1:1.0.10-1 Versions of packages openssh-server suggests: ii ksshaskpass [ssh-askpass] 4:5.13.5-0ubuntu1 pn molly-guard pn monkeysphere pn rssh ii ufw0.35-6 -- debconf information: openssh-server/permit-root-login: true
