Bug#1006198: docbook: Packaging license incompatible with the upstream
Am Montag, dem 21.02.2022 um 10:57 -0300 schrieb Eriberto Mota: > [..] > Considering that docbook is orphan plus your reply (or your very > aggressive reply), Maybe you should re-consider your approach and reflect on the actions you were announcing. I cannot even believe that a DD threatens to relicense without proper permissions by the authors. And you haven't layed out what you consider to be the problem, which makes it impossible to even come up with a sensible solution. Also: How should the Docbook license, which clearly restricts itself to the "[..] DocBook XML DTD and its accompanying documentation [..]", cover the packaging files? JFTR: Most of the original Debian package maintainers cannot be reached anymore. Your chances to get the required permissions are slim. > I am closing this bug. There is IMHO no "hampering" condition. The patches that are part of the package will not be accepted into upstream for the reasons I have layed out earlier. The DocBook project is not changing their releases, not even for bug fixes. Those have always gone into the next release or the RC for the next release. Thus the existing patches pose no problem at all IMO. New patches also pose no problem. The patch author has the authority to provide their contribution to the DocBook project under the DocBook license and also ship it with the docbook-Debian package if necessary. And then again: We always had the intention to not deviate from upstream - the Debian packages should always behave like the upstream releases. Thus we were always working closely with upstream (Debian even had a chair in the OASIS, IIRC). And I fail to see good reasons. why we would want to change that, as well. Daniel -- Regards, Daniel Leidert | https://www.wgdd.de/ GPG-Key RSA4096 / BEED4DED5544A4C03E283DC74BCD0567C296D05D GPG-Key ED25519 / BD3C132D8B3805D1808123AB7ACE00941E338C78 https://www.fiverr.com/dleidert https://www.patreon.com/join/dleidert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#1006198: docbook: Packaging license incompatible with the upstream
Am Montag, dem 21.02.2022 um 00:55 -0300 schrieb Joao Eriberto Mota Filho: > Package: docbook > Version: 4.5-9 > Severity: normal > X-Debbugs-Cc: Mark W. Eichin , Adam Di Carlo > , J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) , Yann Dirson > , Steve Langasek , Daniel Leidert > (dale) , Jakub Wilk , Mathieu > Malaterre , Helmut Grohne > > The current packaging license (GPL-2+) is incompatible with upstream > licensing (DocBook License). It is a hampering condition to submit patches > from Debian to the upstream. Can you elaborate on the problems you observe? The docbook* packages are not supposed to differ from upstream, so bug fixes should always go back to upstream. There is no interest to create our own variant. There was just one problem: issues in older releases don't get fixed by upstream anymore - or better: upstream fixed those issues and then released the fixes with the next version. They don't touch older releases. That's why we have a set of patches to fix problems in e.g. DocBook 4.3. Those patches will not be accepted by upstream anyway, so there is IMHO no issue having those under GPL. > I would like to change the packaging licensing to 'DocBook' and I will > wait 15 days to know if anyone has any objection. You want to relicense the code because you don't like the license, and you want to do it without permission of all the authors/contributors that added their work under the GPL-2+ by delcaring them not to answer to silently agreeing? Interesting take on relicensing, purely illegal though ... Daniel -- Regards, Daniel Leidert | https://www.wgdd.de/ GPG-Key RSA4096 / BEED4DED5544A4C03E283DC74BCD0567C296D05D GPG-Key ED25519 / BD3C132D8B3805D1808123AB7ACE00941E338C78 https://www.fiverr.com/dleidert https://www.patreon.com/join/dleidert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#1006198: docbook: Packaging license incompatible with the upstream
Hi Eriberto, On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:55:05AM -0300, Joao Eriberto Mota Filho wrote: > The current packaging license (GPL-2+) is incompatible with upstream > licensing (DocBook License). It is a hampering condition to submit patches > from Debian to the upstream. > > I would like to change the packaging licensing to 'DocBook' and I will > wait 15 days to know if anyone has any objection. I hereby dual-license my past contributions to the docbook Debian package under the DocBook license in addition to the existing GPL-2+ license. Thank you for taking care. Helmut
Bug#1006198: docbook: Packaging license incompatible with the upstream
Package: docbook Version: 4.5-9 Severity: normal X-Debbugs-Cc: Mark W. Eichin , Adam Di Carlo , J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) , Yann Dirson , Steve Langasek , Daniel Leidert (dale) , Jakub Wilk , Mathieu Malaterre , Helmut Grohne The current packaging license (GPL-2+) is incompatible with upstream licensing (DocBook License). It is a hampering condition to submit patches from Debian to the upstream. I would like to change the packaging licensing to 'DocBook' and I will wait 15 days to know if anyone has any objection. Thanks! Regards, Eriberto
