Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-19 Thread Nis Martensen
On 19.03.2022 23.37, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 14:17:08 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022, Nis Martensen wrote: >>> "This bug affects accessibility to users with disabilities. It >>> particularly impacts usability by people who rely on assistive (or other

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 14:17:08 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2022, Nis Martensen wrote: > > "This bug affects accessibility to users with disabilities. It > > particularly impacts usability by people who rely on assistive (or other > > adaptive) technology to use the

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022, Nis Martensen wrote: > On 14.03.2022 22.06, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Simon McVittie wrote: > >> Please could the BTS owners provide or approve a clearer wording for > >> this, if they are the "owners" of the tag definition? > > > > I'd like if it includes

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-19 Thread Nis Martensen
On 14.03.2022 22.06, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Simon McVittie wrote: >> Please could the BTS owners provide or approve a clearer wording for >> this, if they are the "owners" of the tag definition? > > I'd like if it includes "accessibility" in the language (so someone can >

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Simon McVittie wrote: > Please could the BTS owners provide or approve a clearer wording for > this, if they are the "owners" of the tag definition? [...] I'm open to any inclusive language which you all agree on. The point of the tag was to help highlight bugs which

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le lun. 14 mars 2022 18:21:41 +, a ecrit: > "This bug particularly affects users with disabilities" > if we're using a form of wording similar to that, because what we're > interested in is whether a bug is *particularly* significant for users > of accessibility

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le lun. 14 mars 2022 11:28:33 -0700, a ecrit: > I would vote for the phrase "special needs" instead of any form of disabled, > as it would seem more of a positive. I understand that point of view. But then people will add the tag, saying "I have a special need: I want to drive 3

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Chime Hart
I would vote for the phrase "special needs" instead of any form of disabled, as it would seem more of a positive. Thank you Chime

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 09:38:36 -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote: [ Simon McVittie wrote: ] > > My understanding is that the a11y tag is intended to be for bugs that > > harm Debian's usefulness for people who rely on assistive technologies > > (screen readers, high contrast themes, etc.), and more

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:23 PM Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 09:38:36 -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > I sympathize with your request, but please first address the rewording > > the the authoritative source of tags descriptions: > > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags > >

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 09:38:36 -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote: > I sympathize with your request, but please first address the rewording > the the authoritative source of tags descriptions: > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags Who "owns" the text on that page? Should I be talking to the BTS

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Sandro Tosi
> My understanding is that the a11y tag is intended to be for bugs that > harm Debian's usefulness for people who rely on assistive technologies > (screen readers, high contrast themes, etc.), and more generally, people > who are not well-served by typical application developer assumptions as > a

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/14/22, john doe wrote: > On 3/14/2022 12:53 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Simon McVittie wrote: >>> Can anyone suggest a wording that makes the intention of the tag >>> clearer, >>> without "othering" the people who particularly need bugs with this tag >>> to >>> be fixed? I've

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-14 Thread john doe
On 3/14/2022 12:53 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Simon McVittie wrote: For instance, the bug that prompted me to open this one is a deadlock (or something) in interacting with Pipewire's PulseAudio-compatible server, which makes the game Minetest (among others) take a long time to start

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Simon McVittie wrote: > For instance, the bug that prompted me to open this one is a deadlock (or > something) in interacting with Pipewire's PulseAudio-compatible server, > which makes the game Minetest (among others) take a long time to start > and have no sound. That certainly makes it

Bug#1007106: reportbug: please make the meaning of the a11y tag clearer

2022-03-11 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: reportbug Version: 11.4.1 Severity: normal X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org I've noticed that a lot of bug reports, particularly in packages with many non-technical users, have the a11y tag when they shouldn't, which presumably makes the tag less useful for people who