Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Sean Whitton writes: > async 1.9.3 is from buster. You have > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-async-1.9.7 on your system, right? > That's interesting, because that means that this is an old bug! See #1040690, which also appears to be this issue. So far the trigger condition appears to be a dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade). I wonder if the issue is on the emacs-el or dh-elpa side, or both? Cheers, Nicholas
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Aymeric Agon-Rambosson writes: > I would say that any directory in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa > that has no namesake in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src, AND > that is not provided itself by a package, should not be > there. Sean, does that seem right to you, or is that too violent a > predicate ? Sounds about right. You could look for .elc files alongside broken symlinks to the corresponding .el file d
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Le dimanche 16 juillet 2023 à 19:39, "Nikolaus Rath" a écrit : Afraid not. With the current elpa-async package, the files are correctly removed on purge. That's good. That leaves me with a different question though - how do I clean up my system? It seems I have a lot of directories and files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa that should not be there, and dpkg -S can't be used to identify what should and shouldn't be there. Is there a way to find out what should not be there? I would say that any directory in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa that has no namesake in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src, AND that is not provided itself by a package, should not be there. Sean, does that seem right to you, or is that too violent a predicate ? Best, Aymeric
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023, at 15:20, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun 16 Jul 2023 at 12:06pm +01, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > >> Hmm. I think the problem is not that the various elpa packages did not >> get installed correctly, but that they did not get removed fully. So >> I'll skip this step for now in an attempt to preserve the current state. > > Yes, I think that's right. The .elc should not have been left behind > when you removed elpa-async. There isn't really enough information here > to try to fix whatever caused that. Let us know if you are able to > reproduce. Afraid not. With the current elpa-async package, the files are correctly removed on purge. That leaves me with a different question though - how do I clean up my system? It seems I have a lot of directories and files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa that should not be there, and dpkg -S can't be used to identify what should and shouldn't be there. Is there a way to find out what should not be there? Best, -Nikolaus
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Hello, On Sun 16 Jul 2023 at 12:06pm +01, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Hmm. I think the problem is not that the various elpa packages did not > get installed correctly, but that they did not get removed fully. So > I'll skip this step for now in an attempt to preserve the current state. Yes, I think that's right. The .elc should not have been left behind when you removed elpa-async. There isn't really enough information here to try to fix whatever caused that. Let us know if you are able to reproduce. -- Sean Whitton
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Hello, On Sun 16 Jul 2023 at 10:52am +01, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > No. It seems these files got orphaned during the upgrade: The .elc files do not ship in the .deb, so it's not a case of orphaning. -- Sean Whitton
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
On Jul 16 2023, Aymeric Agon-Rambosson wrote: > Hello, > > Le dimanche 16 juillet 2023 à 08:22, Sean Whitton > a écrit : > >>> async 1.9.3 is from buster. You have >>> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-async-1.9.7 on your system, right? > > The directory you're supposed to have is > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.7 I don't think so, because I do not have the elpa-async package installed anymore. It's completely purged (not even config left). > > Le dimanche 16 juillet 2023 à 10:52, Nikolaus Rath a > écrit : > >> No. It seems these files got orphaned during the upgrade: >> >> # dpkg -S /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc >> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc > > They did not. > > dpkg -S only shows the files that are present in the .deb file, and the > byte-compiled > files (elc) are not. > > The real file list of the elpa-async package can be queried with : > > - dpkg -L elpa-async > - apt-file list elpa-async (same as previous one, but without prefix > directories) > - Or directly on > https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/all/elpa-async/filelist > > It is normal that files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa do not show up in > any file > list. > > It is because those files are generated during the installation process, from > the content > of /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src (note the -src suffix). And indeed, > those files in > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa are either symbolic links to elisp source > files in > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src, or the byte-compiled version of > those same files. Yeah, but there is no /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async on this system, only the generated files: root@vostro /e/cron.d# dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/ total 21K drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Jul 10 11:42 dash-2.19.1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Jul 10 11:42 git-commit-3.3.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 13 Jul 10 13:36 irony-1.5.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 49 Jul 10 13:36 magit-3.3.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Jul 10 13:36 magit-section-3.3.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Jul 10 11:42 markdown-mode-2.5 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Sep 10 2021 org-bullets-0.2.4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Jul 10 11:42 visual-fill-column-2.4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 5 Jul 10 11:42 with-editor-3.0.5 Looking at one randomly there seems to be a broken symlink for the .el file: nikratio@vostro /u/s/e/s/elpa> dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 57 Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.el -> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.3//async.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12K Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc > > I am not sure what you mean by broken symlink. The symlink target does not exist. > Try to reinstall elpa-async from stable, you should > have /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.7 and the elisp source > files therein, > and the corresponding symlinks and byte-compiled files in > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.7. Hmm. I think the problem is not that the various elpa packages did not get installed correctly, but that they did not get removed fully. So I'll skip this step for now in an attempt to preserve the current state. Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/dash-2.17.0/dash.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async-bytecomp.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/with-editor-3.0.2/with-editor.elc Disable showing Disable logging > > Those warnings can safely be ignored. Thanks for clarifying! They're still very annoying to have on every startup though :-). Best, -Nikolaus
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Hello, Le dimanche 16 juillet 2023 à 08:22, Sean Whitton a écrit : async 1.9.3 is from buster. You have /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-async-1.9.7 on your system, right? The directory you're supposed to have is /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.7 Le dimanche 16 juillet 2023 à 10:52, Nikolaus Rath a écrit : No. It seems these files got orphaned during the upgrade: # dpkg -S /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc They did not. dpkg -S only shows the files that are present in the .deb file, and the byte-compiled files (elc) are not. The real file list of the elpa-async package can be queried with : - dpkg -L elpa-async - apt-file list elpa-async (same as previous one, but without prefix directories) - Or directly on https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/all/elpa-async/filelist It is normal that files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa do not show up in any file list. It is because those files are generated during the installation process, from the content of /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src (note the -src suffix). And indeed, those files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa are either symbolic links to elisp source files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src, or the byte-compiled version of those same files. Looking at one randomly there seems to be a broken symlink for the .el file: nikratio@vostro /u/s/e/s/elpa> dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 57 Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.el -> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.3//async.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12K Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc I am not sure what you mean by broken symlink. My output of dir(1) does not show the target of symlinks. Do you mean that the target of the symbolic link is not present on your system ? This is not supposed to be the case after a successful installation of an elpa-* package : they are part of it. Try to reinstall elpa-async from stable, you should have /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.7 and the elisp source files therein, and the corresponding symlinks and byte-compiled files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.7. Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/dash-2.17.0/dash.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async-bytecomp.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/with-editor-3.0.2/with-editor.elc Disable showing Disable logging Those warnings can safely be ignored. The new native compiler is looking for the source file of each loaded byte-compiled file, and because of our specific file architecture, it does not find it in the same directory. However, in my case, I do have the corresponding native-compiled files in my ~/.emacs.d/eln-cache directory. You could check if you have it, it is supposed to be named ~/.emacs.d/eln-cache/-xx/async--x.eln. My point is that if there is a native-compiled version of some elisp source file on my system, and emacs is capable of loading the native-compiled file, then it means that the native compiler found the source file. So the warnings can be ignored, because some time after the issuing of those warnings, the native compiler will look for the source file in the right place. So it seems to me there are two different things here : - The broken symlink, which should be resolved after a reinstallation of the corresponding package (do tell us if that's not the case) - The native compiler warnings, which can be ignored. Best, Aymeric
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023, at 08:22, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon 10 Jul 2023 at 03:27pm +01, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > >> Package: dh-elpa >> Severity: normal >> >> After upgrading to bookworm, I'm getting many warnings when starting >> emacs: >> >> Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/dash-2.17.0/dash.elc Disable showing Disable >> logging >> Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc Disable >> showing Disable logging >> Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async-bytecomp.elc Disable >> showing Disable logging >> Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc Disable showing >> Disable logging >> Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/with-editor-3.0.2/with-editor.elc Disable >> showing Disable logging >> >> Looking at one randomly there seems to be a broken symlink for the .el >> file: >> >> nikratio@vostro /u/s/e/s/elpa> dir >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.* >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 57 Feb 24 10:49 >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.el -> >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.3//async.el >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12K Feb 24 10:49 >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc >> >> >> I am not sure which package ought to ship >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/. >> >> I suspect this is the same problem for all elpa-* packages, so I'm not >> filing this against elpa-async but (my best guess) dh-elpa. > > async 1.9.3 is from buster. You have > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-async-1.9.7 on your system, right? No. It seems these files got orphaned during the upgrade: # dpkg -S /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc # dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12K Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc # apt show elpa-async Package: elpa-async Version: 1.9.7-1 Priority: optional Section: lisp Source: emacs-async Maintainer: Debian Emacsen team Installed-Size: 88.1 kB Depends: dh-elpa-helper, emacsen-common Recommends: emacs (>= 46.0) Enhances: emacs Homepage: https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/async.html Download-Size: 19.8 kB APT-Sources: http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages Description: simple library for asynchronous processing in Emacs Same for the others: nikratio@vostro ~> dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 root 133K Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc nikratio@vostro ~> dpkg -S /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc Best, -Nikolaus
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Hello, On Mon 10 Jul 2023 at 03:27pm +01, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Package: dh-elpa > Severity: normal > > After upgrading to bookworm, I'm getting many warnings when starting > emacs: > > Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/dash-2.17.0/dash.elc Disable showing Disable > logging > Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc Disable > showing Disable logging > Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async-bytecomp.elc Disable > showing Disable logging > Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc Disable showing Disable > logging > Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/with-editor-3.0.2/with-editor.elc Disable > showing Disable logging > > Looking at one randomly there seems to be a broken symlink for the .el > file: > > nikratio@vostro /u/s/e/s/elpa> dir > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 57 Feb 24 10:49 > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.el -> > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.3//async.el > -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12K Feb 24 10:49 > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc > > > I am not sure which package ought to ship > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/. > > I suspect this is the same problem for all elpa-* packages, so I'm not > filing this against elpa-async but (my best guess) dh-elpa. async 1.9.3 is from buster. You have /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-async-1.9.7 on your system, right? -- Sean Whitton
Bug#1040787: dh-elpa: Lots of missing eln files
Package: dh-elpa Severity: normal After upgrading to bookworm, I'm getting many warnings when starting emacs: Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/dash-2.17.0/dash.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/transient-0.2.0.30/transient.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async-bytecomp.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc Disable showing Disable logging Warning (comp): Cannot look-up eln file as no source file was found for /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/with-editor-3.0.2/with-editor.elc Disable showing Disable logging Looking at one randomly there seems to be a broken symlink for the .el file: nikratio@vostro /u/s/e/s/elpa> dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 57 Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.el -> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/async-1.9.3//async.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root 12K Feb 24 10:49 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/async-1.9.3/async.elc I am not sure which package ought to ship /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/. I suspect this is the same problem for all elpa-* packages, so I'm not filing this against elpa-async but (my best guess) dh-elpa. -- System Information: Debian Release: 12.0 APT prefers stable-security APT policy: (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-10-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads; PREEMPT) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages dh-elpa depends on: ii debhelper 13.11.4 ii emacs 1:28.2+1-15 ii emacs-gtk [emacs] 1:28.2+1-15 pn libarray-utils-perl pn libconfig-tiny-perl pn libdebian-source-perl | dh-make-perl ii libdpkg-perl 1.21.22 ii libfile-find-rule-perl0.34-3 ii libtext-glob-perl 0.11-3 ii perl 5.36.0-7 dh-elpa recommends no packages. dh-elpa suggests no packages.
