Bug#317029: leafnode: Can't get a group if NODESC=1
Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 6 Jul 2005 : Tried fetchnews -f yet? No, I hadn't. I did so, with nodesc=1 set on news.gmane.org, and I have all gmane.org groups in my groupinfo file, albeit without descriptions. Yup, looks like that works for me too. run fetchnews -f and see if that helps Yup, that looks like it fixed my problem. Thanks for helping me debug it. -- Don ___ Don Geddis http://don.geddis.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#317029: leafnode: Can't get a group if NODESC=1
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005, Don Geddis wrote: I have access to two newsservers news.server1.com news.server2.com The first allows downloading of group descriptions, but the second does not. So I have a NODESC = 1 line on the second server. However, there is one group in particular, alt.special-group that is only available on server2. impossible to subscribe to (and download) that group. But the catch is that groups on NODESC = 1 servers don't get added to the groupinfo file. I cannot reproduce this. Please check your log files for errors - see the README files for how to configure syslog. -- Matthias Andree -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#317029: leafnode: Can't get a group if NODESC=1
Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 6 Jul 2005 : I cannot reproduce this. Please check your log files for errors - see the README files for how to configure syslog. OK, let me try explaining a different way. One such newsgroup that I have in mind is alt.binaries.aquaria First I try the leafnode script touch_newsgroup: unix:~ touch_newsgroup alt.binaries.aquaria Can't select alt.binaries.aquaria That seems to fail. So then I try direct access with telnet: unix:~ telnet 127.0.0.1 nntp Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to 127.0.0.1. Escape character is '^]'. 200 Leafnode NNTP Daemon, version 1.11.3.rel running at localhost (my fqdn: news.geddis.org) group comp.lang.lisp 211 1555 13432 14986 comp.lang.lisp group selected group alt.binaries.aquaria 411 No such group quit 205 Always happy to serve! Connection closed by foreign host. As you can see, an ordinary group like comp.lang.lisp seems to work fine, but leafnode gives me a 411 error when I try the alt.binaries.aquaria group. So, is that group even available from my newsserver? Let's try there: unix:~ telnet newsgroups.comcast.net nntp Trying 216.196.97.136... Connected to comcast.dca.giganews.com. Escape character is '^]'. 200 News.GigaNews.Com authinfo user [...some username...] 381 more authentication required authinfo pass [...some password...] 281 News.GigaNews.Com group comp.lang.lisp 211 62358 115515 177872 comp.lang.lisp group alt.binaries.aquaria 211 110 21524 21633 alt.binaries.aquaria quit 205 goodbye Connection closed by foreign host. I've interpreted this evidence as saying that the group exists on the upstream server, but since leafnode can't get a description of it in its groupinfo file, it refuses to allow a client to attempt to subscribe to it. I found no logging messages of interest in the syslog file. It appears that leafnode never attempts to download the group from any upstream server. I'm not even sure what the architecture is supposed to do. Presumably, touch_newsgroup would be the interface to tell leafnode what groups I want to download. But that script is obviously rejecting my group before ever contacting one of the upstream servers, so it clearly can't have any idea whether that group exists on the upstream server or not. -- Don ___ Don Geddis http://don.geddis.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#317029: leafnode: Can't get a group if NODESC=1
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 09:47:25AM -0700, Don Geddis wrote: I'm not even sure what the architecture is supposed to do. Presumably, touch_newsgroup would be the interface to tell leafnode what groups I want to download. But that script is obviously rejecting my group before touch_newsgroup isn't part of leafnode proper, it's just a noddy client that connects to Leafnode and reads an article from the group. All leafnode cares about is if a client is looking at the group - the only reason touch_newsgroup exists is to work around problems that used to exist where Leafnode wouldn't notice that a client was interested in low volume groups. -- You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#317029: leafnode: Can't get a group if NODESC=1
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005, Don Geddis wrote: OK, let me try explaining a different way. One such newsgroup that I have in mind is ... 200 Leafnode NNTP Daemon, version 1.11.3.rel running at localhost (my fqdn: news.geddis.org) group comp.lang.lisp 211 1555 13432 14986 comp.lang.lisp group selected group alt.binaries.aquaria 411 No such group quit 205 Always happy to serve! Connection closed by foreign host. As you can see, an ordinary group like comp.lang.lisp seems to work fine, but leafnode gives me a 411 error when I try the alt.binaries.aquaria group. So, is that group even available from my newsserver? Let's try there: ... 281 News.GigaNews.Com group comp.lang.lisp 211 62358 115515 177872 comp.lang.lisp group alt.binaries.aquaria 211 110 21524 21633 alt.binaries.aquaria quit 205 goodbye Connection closed by foreign host. Tried fetchnews -f yet? I did so, with nodesc=1 set on news.gmane.org, and I have all gmane.org groups in my groupinfo file, albeit without descriptions. So nodesc doesn't preclude anything from being moved into groupinfo yet. That server might not implement newgroups properly, or another reason in the past, with an older leafnode version, and perhaps with timeout_active configuration, may have prevented a proper refresh of the groups. I've interpreted this evidence as saying that the group exists on the upstream server, True. but since leafnode can't get a description of it in its groupinfo file, it refuses to allow a client to attempt to subscribe to it. False. The groups are added to the groupinfo file before leafnode attempts to download the group description. Only a premature fetchnews crash can cause the groupinfo to be corrupt. Check your syslog configuration (see README), perhaps restart syslogd after reconfiguring syslog.conf, then run fetchnews -f and see if that helps, or if it raises error messages. -- Matthias Andree -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#317029: leafnode: Can't get a group if NODESC=1
Package: leafnode Version: 1.11.3.rel-2 Severity: normal I have access to two newsservers news.server1.com news.server2.com The first allows downloading of group descriptions, but the second does not. So I have a NODESC = 1 line on the second server. However, there is one group in particular, alt.special-group that is only available on server2. I have been unable to find a way to read this group via leafnode, even though I have access to a server that offers it. For example, I tried only_groups_pcre = alt\\.special-group So far, it seems that, unless the group appears in the groupinfo file, then a placeholder directory will not be created, and it will be impossible to subscribe to (and download) that group. But the catch is that groups on NODESC = 1 servers don't get added to the groupinfo file. Unless I've missed something, it seems that there ought to be a way to manually specify in the configuration file that a specific group is indeed available from a specific server, and it ought to be fetched from there. -- Don -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-2-686-smp Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) Versions of packages leafnode depends on: ii debconf 1.4.51 Debian configuration management sy ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libpcre35.0-1.1 Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi ii logrotate 3.7-5Log rotation utility ii netbase 4.21 Basic TCP/IP networking system ii tcpd7.6.dbs-8Wietse Venema's TCP wrapper utilit -- debconf information: * leafnode/update-groups: false * leafnode/network: permanent leafnode/update-groupinfo: leafnode/tcpd: true leafnode/expireinfo: leafnode/purge: false * leafnode/server: [news.somewhere.com] leafnode/update-maxcount: leafnode/ppp: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
