Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2006-06-18 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 05:51:16PM +0100, Stephen Kell wrote: Is there any reason why Jan's suggested changes haven't been made? I too would be very happy to see them applied. Lameness of the maintainer. (Oops, that's me) I'm currently testing this. Cheers, Michael --

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2006-06-13 Thread Stephen Kell
Is there any reason why Jan's suggested changes haven't been made? I too would be very happy to see them applied. Stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erwan David wrote: Yasd that would make easier for me to explain that eclipse is a windows only thing If you choose to make yoursellf dependant on people who claim that microsoft waéy is the only way to use a computer,be logical and make

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:55:15AM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erwan David wrote: Yasd that would make easier for me to explain that eclipse is a windows only thing If you choose to make yoursellf dependant on people who claim that

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 17/12/2005, Arnaud Vandyck disait 1° This is not a bug for me, Eclipse runs fine on Debian... and with free software; For me the software is not really free if it is a prison for the user. Gnome is a bunch of ill-designed software whose only goal is to do as windows do. It is just what

Bug#342341: [SPAM?]: Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-17 Thread Jan Schulz
Hi You, Michael Koch wrote: If there is a constructive patch which is not too hard to maintain and is not too intrusive to change Eclipse' behavior drastically I will apply it for sure. AFAIK, there is a easy patch to debian/rules: Just change one debhelper call to add the dependencies of

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Erwan David
Le Fri 16/12/2005, Michael Koch disait On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 09:19:43AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Fri 16/12/2005, Michael Koch disait On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. You are

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Erwan David
OK. I've had enough of this, please. And do you think I'm not fed upo witrh people wanting to impose gnome to me ? Since the technical side of the bug report has been excessively dealt with, I suggest closing it as not a bug, since we have an Eclipse developer's confirmation. Yes

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Billy Biggs
On 16-Dec-05, at 3:19 AM, Erwan David wrote: No eclipse (the software) depends on *gtk* libs. Even eclipse.org does not cite gnome as a requirements. *YOU* impose gnome. Erwan, what part about my description of our use of GNOME is confusing? We use GNOME-VFS to implement the Program API.

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Erwan David
Le Fri 16/12/2005, Billy Biggs disait On 16-Dec-05, at 3:19 AM, Erwan David wrote: No eclipse (the software) depends on *gtk* libs. Even eclipse.org does not cite gnome as a requirements. *YOU* impose gnome. Erwan, what part about my description of our use of GNOME is confusing? We

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-16 Thread Eric
Hi, I don't want to add to the confusion, so I just reply to you. Feel to forward if you think my email is constructive enough to be considered ;-) On 16-Dec-05, at 3:19 AM, Erwan David wrote: We use GNOME-VFS to implement the Program API. It's used to: - determine what your system

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-15 Thread Erwan David
Le Wed 14/12/2005, Billy Biggs disait It needs Mozilla for the embedded browser, as it uses the Gecko embedding API. Erwan is correct that if this is not available, the help system will launch in an external web browser. However, this is a degredation of functionality. We would like

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-15 Thread Michael Koch
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help system which is a vital system for some users

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Erwan David
Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help system which is a vital system for some users will not work. Other thinks don't work either. Upstream Eclipse

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi everyone. [Erwan, this mail is for the eclipse maintainers. I've kept you cc'ed to keep you in the discussion.] On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:32, Erwan David wrote: And that doies not explain th gnome dependency, which is heavier, and tottaly inadequate and, I repeat DANGEROUS. I have an

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Billy Biggs
On 14-Dec-05, at 3:32 AM, Erwan David wrote: I would like that you check the facts before writing such words. You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help system which is a vital system for some users will not work. Other thinks don't work either. Upstream

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-14 Thread Billy Biggs
Andrew, you don't need to go to such incredible feats of sleuthing. :) I am an SWT developer and I think I already explained quite clearly in this bug report what dependencies are there and what are needed. I have an eclipse.org binary release (3.1.1) unpacked in ~/bin/ eclipse on my sarge

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-13 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:36:29PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-11 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi I'm a debian user, not a debian developer, but I feel the need to chime in here. On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:36, Erwan David wrote: So you want to oblige people to use the pile of crap that gnome is. MY freedom is also to NOT use software I think is ill designed and is a danger. So don't use

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Stephan Michels
On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed:

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Billy Biggs
On 10-Dec-05, at 8:53 AM, Erwan David wrote: The gnome libraries are needed for SWT, for example org.eclipse.swt.program.Program to get informations about the mine type and icons etc. for a given file. False, eclipse and swt work perfectly without gnome. Hi Erwan, I'm an SWT developer.

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:42:41PM +0100, Stephan Michels wrote: On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:53:13PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le Sat 10/12/2005, Stephan Michels disait On 12/7/05, Erwan David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-10 Thread Erwan David
Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install additional stuff that Eclipse not depends

Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

2005-12-07 Thread Erwan David
Package: eclipse Severity: normal sudo apt-get -u install eclipse Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-pde-common eclipse-platform