On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 10:43:03PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-11 22:00:36 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
If there was such thing as an appropriate font for all characters that
exist is all languages, I'd agree. Unfortunately, this is not the case,
and you can't
On 2006-02-12 08:49:39 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 10:43:03PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No, I mean that Firefox should select the font based on the characters
that really appears in the document, since this is what the user sees.
Then you can't
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 10:54:53AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-12 08:49:39 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 10:43:03PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL
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No, I mean that Firefox should select the font based on the characters
On 2006-02-12 11:56:56 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
With the wonderful Han unification, a same unicode character has
different representations in different fonts, because these character
simply don't write the same way in chinese, in japanese or in korean.
Such characters are sometimes so
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 04:34:14PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-12 11:56:56 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
With the wonderful Han unification, a same unicode character has
different representations in different fonts, because these character
simply don't write the
On 2006-02-12 18:38:28 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
So, your wish would be that if a page has only ascii, it is treated
as ascii, even if the specified encoding or language (attribute lang)
is something else ?
Yes (after parsing, of course), and ditto with characters from iso-8859-1
and things
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:53:08PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-10 21:05:04 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:24:00PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL
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On 2006-02-10 14:40:35 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you send the
On 2006-02-11 08:38:03 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you send your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and ${HOME}/.fonts.conf if
there's one ?
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf is attached; I have neither ${HOME}/.fonts.conf
nor /etc/fonts/local.conf.
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:16:33AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-11 08:38:03 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you send your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and ${HOME}/.fonts.conf if
there's one ?
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf is attached; I have neither ${HOME}/.fonts.conf
nor
On 2006-02-11 11:22:12 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Er let's try again with
LC_ALL=zh_CN fc-match sans-serif
LC_ALL=ja_JP fc-match sans-serif
dixsept:~ LC_ALL=zh_CN fc-match sans-serif
18x18ja.pcf.gz: Fixed ja
dixsept:~ LC_ALL=ja_JP fc-match sans-serif
12x13ja.pcf.gz: Fixed ja
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38:25AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-11 11:22:12 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Er let's try again with
LC_ALL=zh_CN fc-match sans-serif
LC_ALL=ja_JP fc-match sans-serif
dixsept:~ LC_ALL=zh_CN fc-match sans-serif
18x18ja.pcf.gz:
On 2006-02-11 11:58:17 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38:25AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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dixsept:~ LC_ALL=zh_CN fc-match sans-serif
18x18ja.pcf.gz: Fixed ja
dixsept:~ LC_ALL=ja_JP fc-match sans-serif
12x13ja.pcf.gz: Fixed ja
I'm troubled.
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:34:05PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-11 11:58:17 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38:25AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
dixsept:~ LC_ALL=zh_CN fc-match sans-serif
18x18ja.pcf.gz: Fixed ja
On 2006-02-11 15:08:08 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
You should file a bug against fontconfig about that particular font
selection problem.
I've just reported a bug.
For the firefox one, i'm afraid to say it's probably a wontfix.
Even though there's a problem with fontconfig, I don't think a
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:29:55PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-11 15:08:08 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
You should file a bug against fontconfig about that particular font
selection problem.
I've just reported a bug.
For the firefox one, i'm afraid to say
On 2006-02-11 22:00:36 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
If there was such thing as an appropriate font for all characters that
exist is all languages, I'd agree. Unfortunately, this is not the case,
and you can't base your rendering on one font for everything.
Thus the firefox parameters.
No, I mean
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:57:46PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-09 12:55:48 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Can you extensively list all the fonts you have installed ?
I've attached the output of fc-list.
Waw, that's a lot of them.
Could you send the output for
On 2006-02-10 14:40:35 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you send the output for these commands :
LANG=zh_CN fc-match sans
LANG=ja_JP fc-match sans
Vera.ttf: Bitstream Vera Sans Roman
for both commands.
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:24:00PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 2006-02-10 14:40:35 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you send the output for these commands :
LANG=zh_CN fc-match sans
LANG=ja_JP fc-match sans
Vera.ttf: Bitstream Vera Sans Roman
for both commands.
On 2006-02-10 21:05:04 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:24:00PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 2006-02-10 14:40:35 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you send the output for these commands :
LANG=zh_CN fc-match sans
LANG=ja_JP fc-match sans
On 2006-02-08 20:12:35 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
I noticed some changes in font selection with pango. Since it has been
enabled by default in latest release, can you check if it helps your
case ?
In fact, this is worse. Pages on which there was no problem
(e.g. Google) are now also rendered
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:25:59AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-08 20:12:35 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
I noticed some changes in font selection with pango. Since it has been
enabled by default in latest release, can you check if it helps your
case ?
In fact,
On 2006-02-09 12:55:48 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Can you extensively list all the fonts you have installed ?
I've attached the output of fc-list.
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I noticed some changes in font selection with pango. Since it has been
enabled by default in latest release, can you check if it helps your
case ?
Mike
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 05:21:05PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2006-02-04 15:19:40 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Yes,
On 2006-02-04 06:30:27 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Actually, it's the contrary. You must have a font that provides latin
character set and chinese characters.
I think I have one (a bitmap font, for xterm). This would explain the
problem.
The way it works is pretty simple, based on the character
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:37:53PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(...)
In both cases, the encoding is Unicode. I wonder why Firefox doesn't
use a Unicode font for everything!
The only unicode font covering all the unicode character set is Arial
Unicode MS, and it's limited to
On 2006-02-04 15:19:40 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Yes, that sucks, but that's not a firefox problem, it's a fontconfig
one. Firefox can only hint fontconfig about what it believes the text is
written in, making assumptions from what the server and the page gives
him.
Do you mean that this is
Package: firefox
Version: 1.5.dfsg-4
Severity: normal
With pages using a non-western encoding (e.g. ISO-2022-JP or GB2312),
such as
http://hannah.ipc.miyakyo-u.ac.jp/kim/Linux/AthlonGCC.html
http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC22/WG14/www/docs/n1013.htm
the fonts look ugly. This bug seems to be
Try installing ttf-unfonts or some other font packages.
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 04:53:32PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Package: firefox
Version: 1.5.dfsg-4
Severity: normal
With pages using a non-western encoding (e.g. ISO-2022-JP or GB2312),
such as
On 2006-02-03 19:43:03 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Try installing ttf-unfonts or some other font packages.
ttf-unfonts takes 32.6 MB, and one of my machine doesn't have enough
disk space (otherwise I'd have to remove useful packages...). Such a
huge package shouldn't be needed just to display
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 03:29:44AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 2006-02-03 19:43:03 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Try installing ttf-unfonts or some other font packages.
ttf-unfonts takes 32.6 MB, and one of my machine doesn't have enough
disk space (otherwise I'd have to
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