Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 03:52:29AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:43:39PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: What makes 'running free windows drivers for stuff' so much more unrealistic than 'running free windows software for stuff'? Especially seen as how no Windows

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 01:42:38PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:49:48PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:40:26AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: I'll ask again: Is the purpose of ndiswrapper running non-free drivers? If it isn't, show me a

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:14:38PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: Then please work to revise [Removed false premise fallacy] Last time your argument was that free NDIS drivers exist, so the situation is analogous to wine. Nobody bothered to check, but it turns out that only one free driver

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:40:26AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: I'll ask again: Is the purpose of ndiswrapper running non-free drivers? If it isn't, show me a free, non-toy, non-POC driver that would prove otherwise. Does the lack of a free driver which can be used with ndiswrapper mean that

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:49:48PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:40:26AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: I'll ask again: Is the purpose of ndiswrapper running non-free drivers? If it isn't, show me a free, non-toy, non-POC driver that would prove otherwise. Does

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Poole
Robert Millan writes: Policy: 2.2.2 The contrib section [...] Examples of packages which would be included in contrib are: Here's the part that you left out: * free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages which are not in our archive at all for compilation or

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 08:46:53AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: But nasm requires such assembly for useful execution! Dude, you're on crack. First, there's apparently free software in main that you can compile with nasm to your heart's content, namely crystalspace, drip, e3, effectv, extipl,

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Poole
Anthony Towns writes: But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't a driver compiler, it's a wrapper to allow existing drivers to run on Linux. This apparently

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 09:59 -0500, Michael Poole a écrit : Anthony Towns writes: But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't a driver compiler, it's

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:59:07AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: Anthony Towns writes: But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't a driver compiler, it's a

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Poole
Anthony Towns writes: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:59:07AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: Anthony Towns writes: But even if that weren't the case, nasm is an assembler -- it doesn't rely on assembler code to do anything useful, its purpose is to translate assembler code. ndiswrapper isn't

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-17 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:49:10AM -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 11:22 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Package: ndiswrapper Severity: serious This package should be in contrib, not main. We've had this discussion. We're not having it again. Check the

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 18:00 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: [...] First, I couldn't find any reference to a GPLed NDIS driver in ndiswrapper's website, like Michael Poole asserts: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/01/msg00381.html I assume he was talking about the CIPE driver; it's

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-17 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:40:10PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 18:00 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: [...] First, I couldn't find any reference to a GPLed NDIS driver in ndiswrapper's website, like Michael Poole asserts:

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 23:48 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:40:10PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 18:00 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: [...] First, I couldn't find any reference to a GPLed NDIS driver in ndiswrapper's website, like

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 17, Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see. From http://cipe-win32.sourceforge.net/ : CIPE-Win32 is a port of Olaf Titz's CIPE package from Linux to Windows NT. I think this is the cipe-source package in debian. If this driver is already available, there's no much point

Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-17 Thread Michael Poole
Robert Millan writes: I see. From http://cipe-win32.sourceforge.net/ : CIPE-Win32 is a port of Olaf Titz's CIPE package from Linux to Windows NT. I think this is the cipe-source package in debian. If this driver is already available, there's no much point in using it via ndiswrapper.