Bug#390962: aptitude: Packages which are upgradable are classified in New Packages section

2006-10-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:08:58PM -0600, doug jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] was 
heard to say:
 Version:
 Aptitude 0.4.3 compiled at Sep 3 2006 17:35:53
 
 Matto Marjanovic wrote:
  When one hits 'g', these errant packages appear listed
  under Packages being held back --- which is typically when I notice
  them and think hmm... did I overlook these packages earlier?.
 
 I have noticed this type of behavior as well, but I haven't check
 the relationship to new packages or clearing new packages.
 
 Below is an explanation of what I am seeing.  It isn't intended to
 introduce any new issues, but just to give a different data point.
 
 After opening aptitude I like to see if there are any packages that
 need to be upgraded (well, sometimes I run update first):
 --\Upgradable Packages
  --\admin - Administrative ...
--\main - The main ...
 ilinux-image-2.6-486 ...   (not currently used, but I let it
 be just to have something there.)
 -- New Packages (note: I've never cleared this, want to find time to
  look through them first. Yes, it is a silly reason.)
 -- Installed Packages
 -- ... and so on ...
 then I select a package to install (doesn't seem to matter which one):
 piA libxml-parser-perlnone2.34-4.2
 then I select g:
 --\ Packages being automatically installed...
 piA  libcompress-zlib-perl
 piA  ... and several more ...
 --\ Packages being held back
 i A iso-codes   0.53-010.55-1
 i A libhal-storage1 0.5.7.1-2  0.5.8.1-1
 i A libhal1 0.5.7.1-2  0.5.8.1-1
 i   linux-image ...
 i   linux-kernel ...
 ihA xserver-xorg-input-evdev1:1.0.0.5- 1:1.1.2-3
 ihA xserver-xorg-input-evdev0.7.4.1-4  0.7.4.1-5
 (The last two (xserver) packages have previously been held (manually),
  in a prior aptitude session.)
 --\ Packages to be installed
 pi   libxml-parser-perl  +721kB   none2.34-4.2
 --- Packages which are suggested by other packages
 (none, but not verified one way or the other.)

  It looks to me like this is just expected behavior -- you haven't
upgraded the kernel, so it shows up in the list of stuff not being
upgraded.

  Daniel


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Bug#390962: aptitude: Packages which are upgradable are classified in New Packages section

2006-10-14 Thread doug jensen
Version:
Aptitude 0.4.3 compiled at Sep 3 2006 17:35:53

Matto Marjanovic wrote:
 When one hits 'g', these errant packages appear listed
 under Packages being held back --- which is typically when I notice
 them and think hmm... did I overlook these packages earlier?.

I have noticed this type of behavior as well, but I haven't check
the relationship to new packages or clearing new packages.

Below is an explanation of what I am seeing.  It isn't intended to
introduce any new issues, but just to give a different data point.

After opening aptitude I like to see if there are any packages that
need to be upgraded (well, sometimes I run update first):
--\Upgradable Packages
 --\admin - Administrative ...
   --\main - The main ...
ilinux-image-2.6-486 ...   (not currently used, but I let it
be just to have something there.)
-- New Packages (note: I've never cleared this, want to find time to
 look through them first. Yes, it is a silly reason.)
-- Installed Packages
-- ... and so on ...
then I select a package to install (doesn't seem to matter which one):
piA libxml-parser-perlnone2.34-4.2
then I select g:
--\ Packages being automatically installed...
piA  libcompress-zlib-perl
piA  ... and several more ...
--\ Packages being held back
i A iso-codes   0.53-010.55-1
i A libhal-storage1 0.5.7.1-2  0.5.8.1-1
i A libhal1 0.5.7.1-2  0.5.8.1-1
i   linux-image ...
i   linux-kernel ...
ihA xserver-xorg-input-evdev1:1.0.0.5- 1:1.1.2-3
ihA xserver-xorg-input-evdev0.7.4.1-4  0.7.4.1-5
(The last two (xserver) packages have previously been held (manually),
 in a prior aptitude session.)
--\ Packages to be installed
pi   libxml-parser-perl  +721kB   none2.34-4.2
--- Packages which are suggested by other packages
(none, but not verified one way or the other.)

The above was typed as opposed to copied so there could be typos.

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Doug Jensen


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Bug#390962: aptitude: Packages which are upgradable are classified in New Packages section

2006-10-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:40:40AM -0400, Matto Marjanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
 
  From: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ...
I think new packages that are upgradable have always gone into the
  new packages section.  It might make sense to pull them out of there
  automatically, though.
 
 Hmm --- maybe I misunderstand what a new package is...

  A new package is one that you haven't yet marked as not new by
running Forget new packages (with the exception that everything is
marked as not new when you run aptitude for the first time).  If this
is actually happening with packages that really aren't new, then that's
a bug, but I've never seen anything like that happen myself.

  Daniel


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Bug#390962: aptitude: Packages which are upgradable are classified in New Packages section

2006-10-04 Thread Matto Marjanovic

 From: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ...
   I think new packages that are upgradable have always gone into the
 new packages section.  It might make sense to pull them out of there
 automatically, though.

Hmm --- maybe I misunderstand what a new package is...

In the particular instance I noticed/reported last night:

  o libmyth-0.20 was already installed, at version 0.20-0.0.

  o A younger version, 0.20-0.2, became available.

  o After updating the package cache, aptitude displayed
 libmyth-0.20 in the new packages section.

Since libmyth-0.20 had already been installed, and it wasn't listed
 as a new package before the latest update, why did it become new
 again after the update?


(libmyth-0.20 is from a foreign repository, so maybe it is a poor
 sample point, but I'm positive that I've seen this occur now and
 again with mainline Debian packages.)

-matt m.



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Bug#390962: aptitude: Packages which are upgradable are classified in New Packages section

2006-10-03 Thread Matto Marjanovic
Package: aptitude
Version: 0.4.3-1
Severity: normal

This is something I've noticed from time to time but I've never quite
 had the presence of mind to catch until now.

Occasionally, a few upgradable packages (i.e., already installed but
 with a new version available) are filed into the New Packages category
 of the display.  When one hits 'g', these errant packages appear listed
 under Packages being held back --- which is typically when I notice
 them and think hmm... did I overlook these packages earlier?.

Hitting 'f' to Forget new packages causes such packages to find their
 proper places in the Upgradable Packages listing.

(I've captured a bunch of state files from /var which I figure might be
 useful to someone trying to debug this.  Quite a bit of bytes, so if
 someone wants them, they can ask me.)

-matt m.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers oldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)

Versions of packages aptitude depends on:
ii  apt [libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3. 0.6.46  Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  libc62.3.6.ds1-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libgcc1  1:4.1.1-15  GCC support library
ii  libncursesw5 5.5-2   Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libsigc++-2.0-0c2a   2.0.16-3type-safe Signal Framework for C++
ii  libstdc++6   4.1.1-15The GNU Standard C++ Library v3

Versions of packages aptitude recommends:
ii  aptitude-doc-en [aptitude-doc 0.4.3-1English manual for aptitude, a ter

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Bug#390962: aptitude: Packages which are upgradable are classified in New Packages section

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
  I think new packages that are upgradable have always gone into the
new packages section.  It might make sense to pull them out of there
automatically, though.

  Daniel


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