Bug#419987:
Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex? Of course not, since that would mean that xmltex isn't installable any more - there's no other TeX system in sid. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#419987:
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070420 09:20]: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex? Of course not, since that would mean that xmltex isn't installable any more - there's no other TeX system in sid. Citing from the xmltex package: XMLTeX is a non-validating, namespace-aware XML parser written in TeX. It allows TeX to directly process XML files. Usually I process tex files with TeX, not XML files. So I figured I don't need xmltex. Did I miss something, like texlive converts every tex/latex file into XML and then uses xmltex?
Bug#419987:
Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070420 09:20]: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex? Of course not, since that would mean that xmltex isn't installable any more - there's no other TeX system in sid. Citing from the xmltex package: XMLTeX is a non-validating, namespace-aware XML parser written in TeX. It allows TeX to directly process XML files. Usually I process tex files with TeX, not XML files. So I figured I don't need xmltex. Did I miss something, like texlive converts every tex/latex file into XML and then uses xmltex? No, why? What's the problem you are trying to address? Was xmltex pulled in by some package which you installed? Usually, people who don't want xmltex shouldn't install it, but for those who install it on purpose, it also needs a working TeX system underneath. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#419987:
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070420 10:30]: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070420 09:20]: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex? Of course not, since that would mean that xmltex isn't installable any more - there's no other TeX system in sid. Citing from the xmltex package: XMLTeX is a non-validating, namespace-aware XML parser written in TeX. It allows TeX to directly process XML files. Usually I process tex files with TeX, not XML files. So I figured I don't need xmltex. Did I miss something, like texlive converts every tex/latex file into XML and then uses xmltex? No, why? What's the problem you are trying to address? See bug title. Was xmltex pulled in by some package which you installed? I don't remember this. Usually, people who don't want xmltex shouldn't install it, but for those who install it on purpose, it also needs a working TeX system underneath. The problem is, that if you have xmltex installed, an upgrade from tetex to texlive freezes the system. I think this is worth addressing quickly, since it is very annoying to have to restart the system. As I understood from Norberts comment, fixing xmltex might take a while. So, at present, it would be nice if tex-live-bin would conflict with xmltex, because it is impossible, as far as I can see, to have both on the system. Later, of course, this conflict should be removed. Johannes Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- Dr. Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: F649AF90 UFT Bremen, Leobenerstr. 1 +49 421 218 8971 D-28359 Bremen http://www.uft.uni-bremen.de/chemie/ranke
Bug#419987:
reassign 419987 xmltex retitle 419987 configuration runs into neverending loop # I don't like the phrase leaks memory, there's no C coding error here Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070420 10:30]: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070420 09:20]: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex? Of course not, since that would mean that xmltex isn't installable any more - there's no other TeX system in sid. Citing from the xmltex package: XMLTeX is a non-validating, namespace-aware XML parser written in TeX. It allows TeX to directly process XML files. Usually I process tex files with TeX, not XML files. So I figured I don't need xmltex. Did I miss something, like texlive converts every tex/latex file into XML and then uses xmltex? No, why? What's the problem you are trying to address? See bug title. As Norbert already pointed out, this needs fixes in xmltex. I was answering to your proposed solution Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex, and since you insisted on discussing this, I am asking why. The problem is, that if you have xmltex installed, an upgrade from tetex to texlive freezes the system. I think this is worth addressing quickly, since it is very annoying to have to restart the system. As I understood from Norberts comment, fixing xmltex might take a while. No, he wrote about the number of changes, not the time it takes (Actually the work is already done by us, just the xmltex maintainer is inactive). It wasn't clear to me that you were talking about an interim solution. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#419987:
The problem is, that if you have xmltex installed, an upgrade from tetex to texlive freezes the system. I think this is worth addressing quickly, since it is very annoying to have to restart the system. As I understood from Norberts comment, fixing xmltex might take a while. No, he wrote about the number of changes, not the time it takes (Actually the work is already done by us, just the xmltex maintainer is inactive). OK. It wasn't clear to me that you were talking about an interim solution. Sorry, I should have made that clear. Thanks for all the great work on maintaining tex for Debian! Regards, Johannes Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- Dr. Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: F649AF90 UFT Bremen, Leobenerstr. 1 +49 421 218 8971 D-28359 Bremen http://www.uft.uni-bremen.de/chemie/ranke
Bug#419987: (no subject)
Log attached. I killed it with 'killall mktexfmt.' fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=etex -progname=etex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *etex.ini' ... This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) %-line parsing enabled. (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/web2c/cp227.tcx) entering extended mode (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/config/etex.ini (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/etex/etex.src (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/base/plain.tex Preloading the plain format: codes, registers, parameters, fonts, more fonts, macros, math definitions, output routines, hyphenation (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex [skipping from \patterns to end-of-file...])) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/etex/etexdefs.lib Skipping module grouptypes; Loading module interactionmodes; Skipping module nodetypes; Skipping module iftypes;) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/config/language.def (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex)) Augmenting the Plain TeX definitions: \tracingall; Adding new e-TeX definitions: \eTeX, \loggingall, \tracingnone, register allocation; extended register allocation; Recycling: \addlanguage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not defined), [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not defined), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not defined), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not defined), [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Retaining: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]@@d, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], \eTeX, \etexhdrchk, \etexstatus, \module, \uselanguage, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],) ) Beginning to dump on file etex.fmt (format=etex 2007.4.19) 2836 strings of total length 41431 7953 memory locations dumped; current usage is 1977289 1247 multiletter control sequences \font\nullfont=nullfont \font\tenrm=cmr10 \font\preloaded=cmr9 \font\preloaded=cmr8 \font\sevenrm=cmr7 \font\preloaded=cmr6 \font\fiverm=cmr5 \font\teni=cmmi10 \font\preloaded=cmmi9 \font\preloaded=cmmi8 \font\seveni=cmmi7 \font\preloaded=cmmi6 \font\fivei=cmmi5 \font\tensy=cmsy10 \font\preloaded=cmsy9 \font\preloaded=cmsy8 \font\sevensy=cmsy7 \font\preloaded=cmsy6 \font\fivesy=cmsy5 \font\tenex=cmex10 \font\preloaded=cmss10 \font\preloaded=cmssq8 \font\preloaded=cmssi10 \font\preloaded=cmssqi8 \font\tenbf=cmbx10 \font\preloaded=cmbx9 \font\preloaded=cmbx8 \font\sevenbf=cmbx7 \font\preloaded=cmbx6 \font\fivebf=cmbx5 \font\tentt=cmtt10 \font\preloaded=cmtt9 \font\preloaded=cmtt8 \font\preloaded=cmsltt10 \font\tensl=cmsl10 \font\preloaded=cmsl9 \font\preloaded=cmsl8 \font\tenit=cmti10 \font\preloaded=cmti9 \font\preloaded=cmti8 \font\preloaded=cmti7 \font\preloaded=cmu10 \font\preloaded=cmmib10 \font\preloaded=cmbsy10 \font\preloaded=cmcsc10 \font\preloaded=cmssbx10 \font\preloaded=cmdunh10 \font\preloaded=cmr7 at 14.51799pt \font\preloaded=cmtt10 at 14.4pt \font\preloaded=cmssbx10 at 14.4pt \font\preloaded=manfnt 14787 words of font info for 50 preloaded fonts 14 hyphenation exceptions Hyphenation trie of length 6075 has 181 ops out of 35111 181 for language 0 No pages of output. Transcript written on etex.log. fmtutil: /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.fmt installed. fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfetex -progname=pdfetex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *pdfetex.ini' ... This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) %-line parsing enabled. (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/web2c/cp227.tcx) entering extended mode (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/config/pdfetex.ini (/etc/texmf/tex/generic/config/pdftexconfig.tex) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/etex/etex.src (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/base/plain.tex Preloading the plain format: codes, registers, parameters, fonts, more fonts, macros, math definitions, output routines, hyphenation (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex [skipping from \patterns to end-of-file...])) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/etex/etexdefs.lib Skipping module grouptypes; Loading module interactionmodes; Skipping module nodetypes; Skipping module iftypes;) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/config/language.def (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex)) Augmenting the Plain TeX definitions: \tracingall; Adding new e-TeX definitions: \eTeX, \loggingall, \tracingnone, register allocation; extended register allocation; Recycling: \addlanguage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not defined), [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bug#419987: (no subject)
Hi Wouter! On Don, 19 Apr 2007, Wouter Cloetens wrote: fmtutil: running `etex -ini -jobname=xmltex -progname=xmltex latex xmltex.ini' ... This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt Sorry, I can't find the format `latex.fmt'; will try `xmltex.fmt'. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt xmltex.fmt fmtutil: running `etex -ini -jobname=xmltex -progname=xmltex latex xmltex.ini' ... PLease de-install xmltex, then configuration should succeed. This is in fact a bug in xmltex, and needs a lot of fixes. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- SWANIBOST (adj.) Complete shagged out after a hard day having income tax explained to you. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#419987: (no subject)
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 11:28:48AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: PLease de-install xmltex, then configuration should succeed. This is in fact a bug in xmltex, and needs a lot of fixes. Indeed, that fixes it. Thank you! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#419987:
retitle 419987 texlive-base-bin: =?iso-8859-15?q?configuration_runs_forever=2C_leaks_memory_until_system_d?= =?iso-8859-15?q?ies=0D=0Athanks?= Reply-To: Johannes Ranke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: reportbug 3.36 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:16:58 +0200 Package: texlive-base-bin Version: 2007-5 Followup-For: Bug #419987 Just trying to change the bug title, so people using apt-listbugs get a clue. No idea if this works like that. Couldn't texlive-base-bin conflict with xmltex? -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.20-1-amd64 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages texlive-base-bin depends on: ii ed0.2-20 The classic unix line editor ii libc6 2.5-3 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libncurses5 5.5-5 Shared libraries for terminal hand ii libpng12-01.2.15~beta5-1 PNG library - runtime ii libpoppler0c2 0.4.5-5.1 PDF rendering library ii libx11-6 2:1.0.3-7 X11 client-side library ii libxaw7 1:1.0.3-3 X11 Athena Widget library ii libxmu6 1:1.0.3-1 X11 miscellaneous utility library ii libxpm4 1:3.5.6-2 X11 pixmap library ii libxt61:1.0.5-2 X11 toolkit intrinsics library ii mime-support 3.39-1 MIME files 'mime.types' 'mailcap ii perl 5.8.8-7Larry Wall's Practical Extraction ii texlive-common2007-4 TeX Live: Base component ii zlib1g1:1.2.3-13 compression library - runtime Versions of packages texlive-base-bin recommends: ii perl-tk 1:804.027-7 Perl module providing the Tk graph Versions of packages tex-common depends on: ii debconf 1.5.13 Debian configuration management sy ii ucf 2.0021 Update Configuration File: preserv Versions of packages texlive-base-bin is related to: pn tetex-basenone (no description available) ii tetex-bin 2007-4 TeX Live: teTeX transitional packa pn tetex-extra none (no description available) -- debconf information excluded -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
