Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 13 juillet 2007 à 16:50 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit : I don't completely agree with the decision though. The notification area icon only shows up, as soon as you actually use one of your SSH or GPG keys. You then get the options in the context menu to show the currently active keys and clear the cache, which is a useful and valuable functionality imho. It makes it clear and obvious, that one of your keys is currently in use, so I'd vote for reverting this change. Practically speaking, it is here most of the time while there is nothing to be notified of. This is an abuse of the purpose of the notification area, but clearly not the only one. Many people are eager to see the new applet API at work to get rid of such abuse. Why not keep this functionality enabled until the new API (which I haven't heard of yet, do you have a link?) is in place then? I don't see, why it is an abuse to provide useful functionality. If you disable the systray applet, there is no way anymore to show the list of currently cached windows and clear the cache, and most importantly it shows me, that seahorse is actually active and working. As long as this kind of functionality isn't available through other mechanisms, please keep the systray applet enabled. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
Le samedi 14 juillet 2007 à 15:12 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit : Practically speaking, it is here most of the time while there is nothing to be notified of. This is an abuse of the purpose of the notification area, but clearly not the only one. Many people are eager to see the new applet API at work to get rid of such abuse. Why not keep this functionality enabled until the new API (which I haven't heard of yet, do you have a link?) I regularly hear about it every time such problems occur. It is planned for GNOME 2.22, see http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/GnomePanel is in place then? I don't see, why it is an abuse to provide useful functionality. The notification area is a place to notify the user when an event occurs. It is not meant to be a copy of the stupid Windows system tray with its gazillions of useless icons for each and every pet application installed on the system. If you disable the systray applet, there is no way anymore to show the list of currently cached windows and clear the cache, and most importantly it shows me, that seahorse is actually active and working. Do you need a status icon for each application which is alive and working? If a program is not working, we should fix it rather than finding ways to show people when it is working. Nevertheless, I agree that the empty cache functionality has to be available one way or another. I'll discuss with upstream of the best way to expose it. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
Package: seahorse Version: 1.0.1-6 Severity: minor I can't pinpoint the exact time anymore, but since some days, seahorse does not show up anymore in the systray/notification area. It used to show up as soon as I used SSH keys or my GPG key within thunderbird but it doesn't anymore. I looked around in the settings dialog and in gconf-editor but couldn't find a relevant setting. Michael -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (300, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.22.1 Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages seahorse depends on: ii gconf2 2.18.0.1-3 GNOME configuration database syste ii libart-2.0-22.3.19-3 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libatk1.0-0 1.18.0-2 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libavahi-client30.6.20-2 Avahi client library ii libavahi-common30.6.20-2 Avahi common library ii libavahi-glib1 0.6.20-2 Avahi glib integration library ii libbonobo2-02.18.0-2 Bonobo CORBA interfaces library ii libbonoboui2-0 2.18.0-5 The Bonobo UI library ii libc6 2.6-2GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcairo2 1.4.10-1 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libdbus-1-3 1.1.1-3 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libdbus-glib-1-20.74-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libfontconfig1 2.4.2-1.2generic font configuration library ii libgcc1 1:4.2-20070707-1 GCC support library ii libgconf2-4 2.18.0.1-3 GNOME configuration database syste ii libglade2-0 1:2.6.1-1library to load .glade files at ru ii libglib2.0-02.12.12-1+b1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgnome-keyring0 0.8.1-2 GNOME keyring services library ii libgnome2-0 2.18.0-4 The GNOME 2 library - runtime file ii libgnomecanvas2-0 2.14.0-3 A powerful object-oriented display ii libgnomeprint2.2-0 2.18.0-2 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture - ii libgnomeprintui2.2-02.18.0-2 GNOME 2.2 print architecture User ii libgnomeui-02.18.1-2 The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf ii libgnomevfs2-0 1:2.18.1-3+b1GNOME Virtual File System (runtime ii libgnutls13 1.6.3-1 the GNU TLS library - runtime libr ii libgpg-error0 1.4-2library for common error values an ii libgpgme11 1.1.4-1 GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy ii libgtk2.0-0 2.10.13-1The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libgtksourceview1.0-0 1.8.5-1 shared libraries for the GTK+ synt ii libice6 1:1.0.3-2X11 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libldap22.1.30-13.4 OpenLDAP libraries ii libnautilus-extension1 2.18.1-3 libraries for nautilus components ii libnotify1 [libnotify1- 0.4.4-3 sends desktop notifications to a n ii libnspr4-0d 4.6.7-1 NetScape Portable Runtime Library ii liborbit2 1:2.14.7-0.1 libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB ii libpanel-applet2-0 2.18.3-1 library for GNOME Panel applets ii libpango1.0-0 1.16.4-2 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libpopt01.10-3 lib for parsing cmdline parameters ii libsm6 2:1.0.3-1+b1 X11 Session Management library ii libsoup2.2-82.2.100-1an HTTP library implementation in ii libx11-62:1.0.3-7X11 client-side library ii libxcursor1 1:1.1.8-2X cursor management library ii libxext61:1.0.3-2X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxfixes3 1:4.0.3-2X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio ii libxi6 2:1.1.1-1X11 Input extension library ii libxinerama11:1.0.2-1X11 Xinerama extension library ii libxml2 2.6.29.dfsg-1GNOME XML library ii libxrandr2 2:1.2.1-1X11 RandR extension library ii libxrender1 1:0.9.2-1X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxul0d1.8.1.4-3Gecko engine library ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5 compression library - runtime Versions of packages seahorse recommends: ii openssh-client1:4.6p1-4 secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh -- debconf information: * seahorse/SUID: true -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: I can't pinpoint the exact time anymore, but since some days, seahorse does not show up anymore in the systray/notification area. It used to show up as soon as I used SSH keys or my GPG key within thunderbird but it doesn't anymore. I looked around in the settings dialog and in gconf-editor but couldn't find a relevant setting. Hi, There should be a gconf key for this, in /apps/seahorse/agent/cache_display -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
forwarded 432975 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432891 stop On Fri, Jul 13, 2007, Michael Biebl wrote: I can't pinpoint the exact time anymore, but since some days, seahorse does not show up anymore in the systray/notification area. It used to show up as soon as I used SSH keys or my GPG key within thunderbird but it doesn't anymore. I looked around in the settings dialog and in gconf-editor but couldn't find a relevant setting. seahorse (1.0.1-6) unstable; urgency=low [ Josselin Mouette ] * debian/gconf-defaults: disable the notification area icon by default as it doesn't notify of anything. See bugzilla#432891. -- Loïc Minier
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: I can't pinpoint the exact time anymore, but since some days, seahorse does not show up anymore in the systray/notification area. It used to show up as soon as I used SSH keys or my GPG key within thunderbird but it doesn't anymore. I looked around in the settings dialog and in gconf-editor but couldn't find a relevant setting. Hi, There should be a gconf key for this, in /apps/seahorse/agent/cache_display Thanks for the hint. I was looking under /apps/seahorse/applet, so I missed this setting. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
Loïc Minier wrote: forwarded 432975 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432891 stop On Fri, Jul 13, 2007, Michael Biebl wrote: I can't pinpoint the exact time anymore, but since some days, seahorse does not show up anymore in the systray/notification area. It used to show up as soon as I used SSH keys or my GPG key within thunderbird but it doesn't anymore. I looked around in the settings dialog and in gconf-editor but couldn't find a relevant setting. seahorse (1.0.1-6) unstable; urgency=low [ Josselin Mouette ] * debian/gconf-defaults: disable the notification area icon by default as it doesn't notify of anything. See bugzilla#432891. Ah, thanks for the pointer. Seems I haven't read the changelog carefully enough. I don't completely agree with the decision though. The notification area icon only shows up, as soon as you actually use one of your SSH or GPG keys. You then get the options in the context menu to show the currently active keys and clear the cache, which is a useful and valuable functionality imho. It makes it clear and obvious, that one of your keys is currently in use, so I'd vote for reverting this change. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#432975: seahorse: systray applet does not show up anymore
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2007 à 16:50 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit : I don't completely agree with the decision though. The notification area icon only shows up, as soon as you actually use one of your SSH or GPG keys. You then get the options in the context menu to show the currently active keys and clear the cache, which is a useful and valuable functionality imho. It makes it clear and obvious, that one of your keys is currently in use, so I'd vote for reverting this change. Practically speaking, it is here most of the time while there is nothing to be notified of. This is an abuse of the purpose of the notification area, but clearly not the only one. Many people are eager to see the new applet API at work to get rid of such abuse. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
