Bug#442117: the package descriptions are still not really descriptive

2007-09-20 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
reopen 442117
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 It would be nice if you could elaborate how you call that a fix.  Yes,
the mentioned empty paragraph doesn't exist anymore - but the new
description isn't helpful neither.  The long description is expected to
contain of at least full sentences, which it doesn't.  It says it lets
one keep an eye on the status, where it doesn't explain in what way, and
what kind of tray is meant, like I asked in my original message...

 Furthermore you doesn't seem to have touched the bacula-client
description at all.  Please notice that the package description is the
thing that should give the user all needed informations about wether he
wants to install the package at all, and this isn't giving out any.

 Please read up about helpful hints on how to write proper package
descriptions in the developer's reference[1].

 Thanks for taking care of this helpful piece of software, btw.
Rhonda
[1] 
http://www.at.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-desc-basics



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Bug#442117: the package descriptions are still not really descriptive

2007-09-20 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu September 20 2007 1:46:22 am Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
  It would be nice if you could elaborate how you call that a fix.  Yes,
 the mentioned empty paragraph doesn't exist anymore - but the new
 description isn't helpful neither.  The long description is expected to
 contain of at least full sentences, which it doesn't.  It says it lets
 one keep an eye on the status, where it doesn't explain in what way, and
 what kind of tray is meant, like I asked in my original message...

If you don't like it, why not suggest your own?

I don't use traymonitor myself, and my Bacula environment does not include X 
capabilities anyhow.

  Furthermore you doesn't seem to have touched the bacula-client
 description at all.  Please notice that the package description is the
 thing that should give the user all needed informations about wether he
 wants to install the package at all, and this isn't giving out any.

The bug was submitted against bacula-traymonitor.  Looking back at the 
report, I see I missed the sentence about bacula-client.  It would have been 
better to submit two bugs, or one bug against the bacula source package, 
here.

But, in general, I see no need to duplicate a paragraph of text from the 
bacula package in every single other package.  See, for instance, 
claws-mail-plugins, education-laptop.  

-- John



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Bug#442117: the package descriptions are still not really descriptive

2007-09-20 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-20 15:28:39 CEST]:
 On Thu September 20 2007 1:46:22 am Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
   It would be nice if you could elaborate how you call that a fix.  Yes,
  the mentioned empty paragraph doesn't exist anymore - but the new
  description isn't helpful neither.  The long description is expected to
  contain of at least full sentences, which it doesn't.  It says it lets
  one keep an eye on the status, where it doesn't explain in what way, and
  what kind of tray is meant, like I asked in my original message...
 
 If you don't like it, why not suggest your own?

 Because I am still not sure about what it is for and why I should
install it, because it doesn't mention anything useful.  But for a
start, writing full sentences shouldn't be that much of a problem, not?

 But, in general, I see no need to duplicate a paragraph of text from the 
 bacula package in every single other package.  See, for instance, 
 claws-mail-plugins, education-laptop.  

 I took a look at them both, and they both are better examples than the
bacula-client long description, yes.  Besides, naming other bad examples
doesn't make your description any better, it just shows that the overall
quality and usefulness of package descriptions isn't high.

 So long,
Rhonda



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