Bug#484011: aptitude: Display archive-name|origin|Label in package view (add %t to Package-Display-Format)

2018-02-23 Thread Paul Wise 
Control: usertags -1 + bittenby

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:50:34 +0100 Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:

> So it will need further consideration.

I think in the version list %t could be the default because there it
doesn't have the package name so more space is available. Also:

https://bugs.debian.org/180539

There are some possibilities for mitigating the concerns you raised:

Merge  and -debug into one suite name for origin Debian.

Do not show the value of %t when apt only knows about one suite.

Make %t a low priority field, so it is only shown when there is enough
space in the line after showing all of the other fields.

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Bug#484011: aptitude: Display archive-name|origin|Label in package view (add %t to Package-Display-Format)

2016-08-19 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo 
2016-08-19 21:50 GMT+01:00 Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
:
>
> I'm not sure if this is a good idea to do by default, because of the
> attached example.

Attached for real now :-P

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Bug#484011: aptitude: Display archive-name|origin|Label in package view (add %t to Package-Display-Format)

2016-08-19 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo 

Control: tags -1 + moreinfo


Hi,

2015-01-07 23:48 Wookey:

Package: aptitude
Version: 0.6.11-1+b1
Followup-For: Bug #484011

I have been adding %t to the display format in aptitude for many years
now. It's enormously useful and I really think it would be a benefit
to users to make this the default . Changing it on every install is
very dull.

i.e change the default from
%c%a%M%S %p %Z %v %V
to
%c%a%M%S %p %Z %t %v %V


I'm not sure if this is a good idea to do by default, because of the
attached example.


Probably most people use 80+ column-wide terminals nowadays if using
them as full screens or similar, but maybe many people continue to use
small terminals of that width, e.g. in tiled configurations.

Due to the +dfsgN of many of our versions (e.g. "3.2.3+dfsg1-2" in the
examples, with added "+b1" very often) and the long package names or
versions (and versions appear twice) of packages across the board for
different reasons [1], many lines do already don't appear fully even in
terminals much wider than 80 (also, see attached file again).

It looks to me that the's been an hyperinflation of package name and
version lengths in the last few years.


So I am not sure if it's a good idea to have this enabled by default,
since in many systems is not very useful (if only having one repository
enabled, plus perhaps "debug").  The packages can only come from
"stable" in that case, even if the repository is called "stable-debug".
Same for people who only use e.g. unstable or testing.

People who are mixing distros/suites are the ones more likely to know
that these options exist, same as you did, because you even mention it
in the bug reports.

I understand that it would be less annoying to have it by default,
instead of modifying it every time (or not every time, but at least if
you use multiple repositories in every machine that you administer, and
also wide terminals).

But since the extra space doesn't always come from free, and it's likely
to hurt more the people who use Debian in "simpler" use-cases and are
perhaps less learned in the matters of package managers, I am reluctant
to go ahead with this change.

So it will need further consideration.


Cheers.


[1] Like:
fonts-symbol, 2:102.7+LibO5.1.5~rc1-1
cube2, 0.0.20130203+dfsg-1+b2
libcmis, 0.5.1+git20160603-1
libgraphicsmagick-q16-3, 1.3.24+hg20160808-1
libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0, 1.8.3-1
libjson-glib-1.0-common, 1.2.0-1
qml-module-org-kde-bluezqt, 5.25.0-1
openstreetmap-map-icons-classic, 0.0.svn32805-1
qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze, 4:5.7.0-1
libdatetime-format-strptime-perl, 1.6800-1
golang-github-audriusbutkevicius-go-nat-pmp-dev, 0.0~git20150722.0.3a76720-1
libicsharpcode-nrefactory-csharp5.0-cil, 5.3.0+20130718.73b6d0f-3
libmono-system-componentmodel-dataannotations4.0-cil, 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8
libmono-system-runtime-serialization-formatters-soap4.0-cil, 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8
postgresql-9.5-python3-multicorn, 1.3.2-1
addresses-goodies-for-gnustep, 0.4.8-2+b1
cairo-dock-desklet-rendering-plug-in, 3.4.0-1.4+b2
gccgo-multilib-powerpc64-linux-gnu, 6.1.1--2

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Bug#484011: aptitude: Display archive-name|origin|Label in package view (add %t to Package-Display-Format)

2015-01-07 Thread Wookey 
Package: aptitude
Version: 0.6.11-1+b1
Followup-For: Bug #484011

I have been adding %t to the display format in aptitude for many years
now. It's enormously useful and I really think it would be a benefit
to users to make this the default . Changing it on every install is
very dull. 

i.e change the default from
%c%a%M%S %p %Z %v %V 
to 
%c%a%M%S %p %Z %t %v %V 

I'm happy to prepare a patch or do an NMU upload with this change to
aptitude::UI::Package-Display-Format if that would be helpful. 

-- Package-specific info:
Terminal: xterm
$DISPLAY is set.
which aptitude: /usr/bin/aptitude

aptitude version information:
aptitude 0.6.11 compiled at Nov  8 2014 13:34:39
Compiler: g++ 4.9.1
Compiled against:
  apt version 4.12.0
  NCurses version 5.9
  libsigc++ version: 2.4.0
  Gtk+ support disabled.
  Qt support disabled.

Current library versions:
  NCurses version: ncurses 5.9.20140913
  cwidget version: 0.5.17
  Apt version: 4.12.0

aptitude linkage:
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fff5effc000)
libapt-pkg.so.4.12 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.4.12 
(0x7f84bd128000)
libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncursesw.so.5 
(0x7f84bcef2000)
libtinfo.so.5 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtinfo.so.5 
(0x7f84bccc7000)
libsigc-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsigc-2.0.so.0 
(0x7f84bcac1000)
libcwidget.so.3 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcwidget.so.3 
(0x7f84bc7ab000)
libsqlite3.so.0 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so.0 
(0x7f84bc4e2000)
libboost_iostreams.so.1.55.0 = 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_iostreams.so.1.55.0 (0x7f84bc2ca000)
libxapian.so.22 = /usr/lib/libxapian.so.22 (0x7f84bbeb9000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 
(0x7f84bbc9b000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 
(0x7f84bb99)
libm.so.6 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x7f84bb68f000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 
(0x7f84bb478000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f84bb0cf000)
libutil.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libutil.so.1 (0x7f84baecc000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x7f84bacc7000)
libz.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x7f84baaac000)
libbz2.so.1.0 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 
(0x7f84ba89c000)
liblzma.so.5 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5 (0x7f84ba678000)
librt.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x7f84ba47)
libuuid.so.1 = /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1 (0x7f84ba26a000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f84bdb3e000)

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 8.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)

Versions of packages aptitude depends on:
ii  aptitude-common   0.6.11-1
ii  libapt-pkg4.121.0.9.5
ii  libboost-iostreams1.55.0  1.55.0+dfsg-3
ii  libc6 2.19-13
ii  libcwidget3   0.5.17-2
ii  libgcc1   1:4.9.1-19
ii  libncursesw5  5.9+20140913-1+b1
ii  libsigc++-2.0-0c2a2.4.0-1
ii  libsqlite3-0  3.8.7.1-1
ii  libstdc++64.9.1-19
ii  libtinfo5 5.9+20140913-1+b1
ii  libxapian22   1.2.19-1

Versions of packages aptitude recommends:
pn  aptitude-doc-en | aptitude-doc  none
ii  libparse-debianchangelog-perl   1.2.0-1.1
ii  sensible-utils  0.0.9

Versions of packages aptitude suggests:
ii  apt-xapian-index  0.47
pn  debtags   none
ii  tasksel   3.29

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Bug#484011: aptitude: Display archive-name|origin|Label in package view (add %t to Package-Display-Format)

2008-06-01 Thread Franklin Piat 
Package: aptitude
Version: 0.4.11.2-1
Severity: wishlist

Hi,


Debian/Lenny users will have multiple entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
because stable and volatile will be enabled on new Lenny systems.
Also, more and more system have backports.org enabled, not to mention
stable-proposed-updates testers.

It order to make it clearer to users where packages comes from, it
would be great to display their origin.

Adding %t to aptitude::UI::Package-Display-Format would be a good
start. (i.e. The archive in which the package is found.)

I've had a look at the Release files. But I haven't fount a perfect
header-entry (i.e. that would be short and differentiate them all) but
Label: seems not so bad.

Franklin.





Some Release files :

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release
  Origin: Debian
  Label: Debian
  Suite: stable
  Version: 4.0r3
  Codename: etch
  Description: Debian 4.0r3 Released 16th February 2008

Origin: Debian
  Label: Debian-Security
  Suite: stable
  Version: 4.0
  Codename: etch
  Description: Debian 4.0 Security Updates

http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/etch/volatile-sloppy/Release
  Origin: volatile.debian.org
  Label: debian-volatile
  Suite: stable
  Codename: etch
  NotAutomatic: yes
  Description: volatile.debian.org


http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/Release
  Origin: Backports.org archive
  Label: Backports.org archive
  Suite: etch-backports
  Codename: etch-backports
  NotAutomatic: yes
  Description: Backports for the Etch Distribution


http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch-proposed-updates/Release
  Origin: Debian
  Label: Debian
  Suite: proposed-updates
  Version: 4.0-updates
  Codename: etch-proposed-updates
  Description: Proposed Updates for Debian 4.0 - Not Released



-- Package-specific info:
aptitude 0.4.11.2 compiled at Apr 12 2008 04:21:26
Compiler: g++ 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)
Compiled against:
  apt version 4.6.0
  NCurses version 5.6
  libsigc++ version: 2.0.18
  Ept support enabled.

Current library versions:
  NCurses version: ncurses 5.6.20080308
  cwidget version: 0.5.11
  Apt version: 4.6.0
Terminal: xterm
$DISPLAY is set.
`which aptitude`: /usr/bin/aptitude
aptitude version information:

aptitude linkage:

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.25-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages aptitude depends on:
ii  apt [libapt-pkg-libc6. 0.7.11Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  libc6  2.7-10GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcwidget30.5.11-1  high-level terminal interface libr
ii  libept00.5.17High-level library for managing De
ii  libgcc11:4.3.0-5 GCC support library
ii  libncursesw5   5.6+20080308-1Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libsigc++-2.0-0c2a 2.0.18-2  type-safe Signal Framework for C++
ii  libstdc++6 4.3.0-5   The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libxapian151.0.5-1   Search engine library
ii  zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-12 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages aptitude recommends:
ii  aptitude-doc-en [aptitude-doc 0.4.11.2-1 English manual for aptitude, a ter
ii  libparse-debianchangelog-perl 1.1.1-2parse Debian changelogs and output

-- no debconf information



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