Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:42:52AM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:
 we also have Jean-Christophe Filliatre's configure.in and
 Makefile.in templates that are currenly in the ocaml-tools package,
 for lack of any better place for it. Maybe they can be packaged
 together with ocaml-autoconf, or ocaml-autoconf can be part of the
 ocaml-tools package?

Interesting, I didn't know that. Those two files should definitely be
companions of ocaml-autoconf, and I presume they initially were meant
as such.

Jean-Christophe has already agreed in relicensing ocaml-autoconf
macros, I presume there will be no problem in doing the same with
those snippets and distributing them together with ocaml-autoconf.

Regarding the packaging, I've no objections in adding all this to
ocaml-tools, but I had the impression you were in the past
discouraging multiple-source Debian packages. In fact that's one of
the reasons for me to propose a separate package. But if you are fine
with adding another bit to ocaml-tools I've no objections whatsoever.

Cheers.

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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-26 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 09:13:20AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:42:52AM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:
  we also have Jean-Christophe Filliatre's configure.in and
  Makefile.in templates that are currenly in the ocaml-tools package,
  for lack of any better place for it. Maybe they can be packaged
  together with ocaml-autoconf, or ocaml-autoconf can be part of the
  ocaml-tools package?
 
 Interesting, I didn't know that. Those two files should definitely be
 companions of ocaml-autoconf, and I presume they initially were meant
 as such.
 
 Jean-Christophe has already agreed in relicensing ocaml-autoconf
 macros, I presume there will be no problem in doing the same with
 those snippets and distributing them together with ocaml-autoconf.
 
 Regarding the packaging, I've no objections in adding all this to
 ocaml-tools, but I had the impression you were in the past
 discouraging multiple-source Debian packages. In fact that's one of
 the reasons for me to propose a separate package. But if you are fine
 with adding another bit to ocaml-tools I've no objections whatsoever.

Sure, go ahead :-) The package has become quite empty anyway since ocamlmakefile
moved out, and ocamldot got integrated into ocaml upstream.

The only problem with multiple upstream packages is that tools like watch do
not work (to my knowledge), and that you always have to cook a new tarball
from upstream sources. There have been rumours of extending dpkg to multiple
source tarballs, which have would solve the problem once for all, but ASFAIK
this is still in the planning stage.

-Ralf.



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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-25 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:45:04AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

 * Package name: ocaml-autoconf
   Upstream Author : Richard Jones, Stefano Zacchiroli, et al.
 * URL : http://ocaml-autoconf.forge.ocamlcore.org/
 * License : BSD (3-clauses)
   Programming Lang: m4
   Description : autoconf macros for OCaml
 
 RFC: this package will consists of just one file:
 /usr/share/ocaml-autoconf/ocaml.m4 , and this puzzles me a bit as
 overkilling. Nevertheless, I've no clue about how autoconf extensions
 should be packaged, and my naive attempts to find similar packages in
 the archive failed.

we also have Jean-Christophe Filliatre's configure.in and Makefile.in templates 
that
are currenly in the ocaml-tools package, for lack of any better place for it. 
Maybe
they can be packaged together with ocaml-autoconf, or ocaml-autoconf can be part
of the ocaml-tools package?

-Ralf.



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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org

* Package name: ocaml-autoconf
  Upstream Author : Richard Jones, Stefano Zacchiroli, et al.
* URL : http://ocaml-autoconf.forge.ocamlcore.org/
* License : BSD (3-clauses)
  Programming Lang: m4
  Description : autoconf macros for OCaml

RFC: this package will consists of just one file:
/usr/share/ocaml-autoconf/ocaml.m4 , and this puzzles me a bit as
overkilling. Nevertheless, I've no clue about how autoconf extensions
should be packaged, and my naive attempts to find similar packages in
the archive failed.

Nevertheless, I don't want to package this together with the compiler
itself, because it would become painful to update.

Any suggestions?

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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-24 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Stefano Zacchiroli [Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:45:04 +0100]:

 RFC: this package will consists of just one file:
 /usr/share/ocaml-autoconf/ocaml.m4 , and this puzzles me a bit as
 overkilling. Nevertheless, I've no clue about how autoconf extensions
 should be packaged, and my naive attempts to find similar packages in
 the archive failed.

Package: autoconf-archive
Description: The Autoconf Macro Archive
 The Autoconf Macro Archive aims to provide a central repository of
 useful and tested Autoconf macros for software developers around the
 world. This package contains the complete content of the Autoconf
 Macro Archive as found at http://autoconf-archive.cryp.to/.

Ideally, you'd manage for the macro to be included in the package
upstream. :-)

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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-24 Thread Richard Jones
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:45:04AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org
 
 * Package name: ocaml-autoconf
   Upstream Author : Richard Jones, Stefano Zacchiroli, et al.
 * URL : http://ocaml-autoconf.forge.ocamlcore.org/
 * License : BSD (3-clauses)
   Programming Lang: m4
   Description : autoconf macros for OCaml
 
 RFC: this package will consists of just one file:
 /usr/share/ocaml-autoconf/ocaml.m4 , and this puzzles me a bit as

Two files actually, because you'll want to include the man page.

 overkilling. Nevertheless, I've no clue about how autoconf extensions
 should be packaged, and my naive attempts to find similar packages in
 the archive failed.

FWIW in Fedora I just packaged the file in
/usr/share/ocaml-autoconf/ocaml.m4, and the man page tells people to
manually copy this file into their project.

This is analogous to how the other autotools work -- eg. look at
/usr/share/*/*.m4 and /usr/share/*/*/*.m4.

Rich.

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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-24 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
 Nevertheless, I don't want to package this together with the compiler
 itself, because it would become painful to update.

What about putting it in dh-ocaml?


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Bug#512834: ITP: ocaml-autoconf -- autoconf macros for OCaml

2009-01-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 01:34:19PM +0100, Stéphane Glondu wrote:
 Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
  Nevertheless, I don't want to package this together with the compiler
  itself, because it would become painful to update.
 
 What about putting it in dh-ocaml?

I thought about it, and discarded this option.  Rationale: dh-ocaml is
targeted at debian package builders, ocaml-autoconf at application
builders (i.e. programmers).

Cheers.

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