Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
Hi. I am happy to report that kmix worked on a LTSP client booting from debian/squeeze today. The control showed up, and was able to adjust the sound volume when I tested using kbokstaver to get some sound. This is with version 4:4.4.4-1. Thank you very much. Unless there is more I should test or check, I believe this bug can be closed. :) Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
retitle 569284 kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients (provides ALSA-PulseAudio, PuseAudio and ESD) thanks Sune put me in contact with Colin Guthrie, who is working on a kmix patch for pulseaudio. Sune provided me with a kdemultimedia test package with such patch included, and I tested running it via a thin client, and it caused kmix to segfault. The thin client have ESD, ALSA via pulseaudio and pulseaudio enabled. I've forgotten the URL to Sunes test packages, but have asked him to submit the URL to BTS. When running the same kmix version locally on the server, where ESD is not enabled and the alsa devices are local, kmix only showed a dummy output control instead of the local audio device. I lack contact with the test setup right now, so I can't test any more. Colin asked for this input: 1. Get a backtrace for the crash - preferably with an updated patch from the above if it fits. 2. On the dummy machine, try and get some info as to what is hogging the device nodes or if check if there is a permissions problem on the sound devices themselves. Details about 2) can be found on URL: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE (basically lsof/fuser/getfacl results). The latest version of the pulseaudio patch is available using this recipe: git clone git://colin.guthr.ie/kdemultimedia cd kdemultimedia; git checkout -t origin/pulse-4.4.4 git diff master..pulse-4.4.4 mypatch.patch Colin said it *should* apply cleanly on top of 4.4 branch of KDE and hopefully the 4.4.4 source tarball. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
Hello, On sekmadienis 30 Gegužė 2010 14:44:54 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Sune put me in contact with Colin Guthrie, who is working on a kmix patch for pulseaudio. Sune provided me with a kdemultimedia test package with such patch included, and I tested running it via a thin client, and it caused kmix to segfault. The thin client have ESD, ALSA via pulseaudio and pulseaudio enabled. I've forgotten the URL to Sunes test packages, but have asked him to submit the URL to BTS. When running the same kmix version locally on the server, where ESD is not enabled and the alsa devices are local, kmix only showed a dummy output control instead of the local audio device. I lack contact with the test setup right now, so I can't test any more. Colin asked for this input: 1. Get a backtrace for the crash - preferably with an updated patch from the above if it fits. 2. On the dummy machine, try and get some info as to what is hogging the device nodes or if check if there is a permissions problem on the sound devices themselves. Details about 2) can be found on URL: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE (basically lsof/fuser/getfacl results). The latest version of the pulseaudio patch is available using this recipe: git clone git://colin.guthr.ie/kdemultimedia cd kdemultimedia; git checkout -t origin/pulse-4.4.4 git diff master..pulse-4.4.4 mypatch.patch Colin said it *should* apply cleanly on top of 4.4 branch of KDE and hopefully the 4.4.4 source tarball. So I failed to understand if the patch solves your bug or not and if we should ship it. -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
found 569284 4:4.4.3-2 thanks I just tested with the new KDE version in testing, and kmix is still not able to adjust the sound on a LTSP thin client. alsamixer work, and show one volume control. But for GUI users, alsamixer is not really a good alternative to present. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
severity 569284 normal thanks Hello, On antradienis 18 Gegužė 2010 12:11:06 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: found 569284 4:4.4.3-2 thanks I just tested with the new KDE version in testing, and kmix is still not able to adjust the sound on a LTSP thin client. alsamixer work, and show one volume control. But for GUI users, alsamixer is not really a good alternative to present. There is no need to play BTS ping pong with maintainers. If you want your feature in, write a patch, submit it, we apply it, everyone is happy. -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
found 569284 4:4.34-1 severity 569284 important thanks [Modestas Vainius] You can't expect us to fix KDE 3.5 to work with evil that is PA when KDE 4.3 does not work sanely with it yet (in theory, KDE 4.4 should be better in this department). I tested this with LTSP using kmix version 4:4.34-1, and it do not work on the thin client there either. The kmix window show no mixer at all, even thought sound work with KDE (the login sound is played). What's more, I don't see how this bug qualifies as important. KDE 3.5 has never been designed to work with PA at all. Feel free to submit patches though. Raising severity to important to reflect this new information and the fact that it affect KDE 4 in Squeeze, and affect a lot of users without making it unusable for everybody. This bug affect Debian Edu, making it harder to document how users should change the sound volume, as the same method (use kmix) do not work everywhere. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
On Monday 22 February 2010 15:23:10 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: found 569284 4:4.34-1 severity 569284 important thanks [Modestas Vainius] You can't expect us to fix KDE 3.5 to work with evil that is PA when KDE 4.3 does not work sanely with it yet (in theory, KDE 4.4 should be better in this department). I tested this with LTSP using kmix version 4:4.34-1, and it do not work on the thin client there either. The kmix window show no mixer at all, even thought sound work with KDE (the login sound is played). What's more, I don't see how this bug qualifies as important. KDE 3.5 has never been designed to work with PA at all. Feel free to submit patches though. Raising severity to important to reflect this new information and the fact that it affect KDE 4 in Squeeze, and affect a lot of users without making it unusable for everybody. As written, it is a new *feature* in kde 4.4. Features are not important. /Sune -- Genius, I cannot cancel the GUI from Internet Explorer 9.6, how does it work? First from the drawer menu within Outlook NT you should never explore the analogic 3D system but from the preferences inside X-Windows you neither can ever receive a mousepad, nor must reset the command prompt over the kernel on a cable for loading the CD connection of a forward over the program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
[Sune Vuorela] As written, it is a new *feature* in kde 4.4. Features are not important. I did not understand what you wrote. Care to elaborate? The issue at hand is that kmix is unable to control the sound volume for the audio system used by KDE on a thin client. KDE audio work just fine for (most) KDE applications in this setup, but kmix do not present any controls to adjust the audio level. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
Package: kmix Version: 4:3.5.9-2 Severity: important User: debian-...@lists.debian.org UserTags: debian-edu The kmix application fail to work on thin clients where the network audio systems provided are ESD and PulseAudio. We discovered this in Debian Edu in Etch and Lenny. In Lenny, our thin clients provide ESD, PulseAudio and ALSA forwarding to PulseAudio, and kmix is unable to select a working mixer and the user is thus unable to regulate the sound level using the normal KDE tool. -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.4 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages kmix depends on: ii kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3 core libraries and binaries for al ii libasound2 1.0.16-2ALSA library ii libc62.7-18lenny2GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libgcc1 1:4.3.2-1.1 GCC support library ii libqt3-mt3:3.3.8b-5+b1 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libstdc++6 4.3.2-1.1 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 kmix recommends no packages. Versions of packages kmix suggests: ii khelpcente 4:4.0.0.really.3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 help center for KDE -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
tags 569284 normal thanks Hello, On ketvirtadienis 11 Vasaris 2010 10:19:24 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: The kmix application fail to work on thin clients where the network audio systems provided are ESD and PulseAudio. We discovered this in Debian Edu in Etch and Lenny. In Lenny, our thin clients provide ESD, PulseAudio and ALSA forwarding to PulseAudio, and kmix is unable to select a working mixer and the user is thus unable to regulate the sound level using the normal KDE tool. You can't expect us to fix KDE 3.5 to work with evil that is PA when KDE 4.3 does not work sanely with it yet (in theory, KDE 4.4 should be better in this department). What's more, I don't see how this bug qualifies as important. KDE 3.5 has never been designed to work with PA at all. Feel free to submit patches though. -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#569284: kmix: Fail to work on LTSP thin clients using PulseAudio
[Modestas Vainius] You can't expect us to fix KDE 3.5 to work with evil that is PA when KDE 4.3 does not work sanely with it yet (in theory, KDE 4.4 should be better in this department). I hope it to be fixed in KDE 4 in Squeeze, so kmix can be used with the sound system selected for KDE, also when it is set to ESD, PulseAudio or ALSA via PulseAudio (the latter do not work with kmix either, and I expected ALSA devices to work with KDE today). What's more, I don't see how this bug qualifies as important. KDE 3.5 has never been designed to work with PA at all. Feel free to submit patches though. I set the severity to important because it make kmix unusable for all users on LTSP thin clients without making it unusable for everyone. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
