Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount

2012-08-07 Thread bertagaz
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 06:24:41PM +, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Without too much reading, it seems tomb and cryptmount somewhat similar.
 The latter is already in the archives and stable. What's the most
 important differences (if any)?

I'd say that one of the most important difference is the use of the
steghide tool to hide access keys in an image. Also Tomb has some Gtk
integration. I don't know cryptmount, so I can't say much, would need to
read more. Thanks for the pointer.

However there are plenty of softwares in the Debian archive that provide
almost the same features, so I'm not sure to get the point of this
question.

bert.


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Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount

2012-08-07 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)
Hi Bert,

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:03 +0200, berta...@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
 I'd say that one of the most important difference is the use of the
 steghide tool to hide access keys in an image. Also Tomb has some Gtk
 integration.
 The steghide sounds good!

 However there are plenty of softwares in the Debian archive that provide
 almost the same features, so I'm not sure to get the point of this
 question.
 Some DDs would argue, as this is not the optimal state. There are a
_lot of_ packages in Debian, but not all of them maintained correctly.
Smaller number but more competent packages would help in general. Better
packaging, easier to write HOWTOs for a specific task and so on.

But to stay on topic, the question was more user oriented this time. I
use and like cryptmount and I like CLI applications better. On the other
hand, if tomb is better in many ways, I may migrate to it.
Will do my tests then. About to create a package of tomb first.

Laszlo/GCS


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Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount

2012-08-07 Thread bertagaz
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:00:59PM +, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) wrote:
 Hi Bert,
 
 On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:03 +0200, berta...@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
  I'd say that one of the most important difference is the use of the
  steghide tool to hide access keys in an image. Also Tomb has some Gtk
  integration.
  The steghide sounds good!
 
  However there are plenty of softwares in the Debian archive that provide
  almost the same features, so I'm not sure to get the point of this
  question.
  Some DDs would argue, as this is not the optimal state. There are a
 _lot of_ packages in Debian, but not all of them maintained correctly.
 Smaller number but more competent packages would help in general. Better
 packaging, easier to write HOWTOs for a specific task and so on.

You make a point. If I asked for the status of this packaging, it's
because I was willing to stand up for maintaining it if no one was
wiling to do so.

 But to stay on topic, the question was more user oriented this time. I
 use and like cryptmount and I like CLI applications better. On the other
 hand, if tomb is better in many ways, I may migrate to it.
 Will do my tests then. About to create a package of tomb first.

Great, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, I'm curious too.
Upstream already did some packaging work in its debian0 branch. Also if
you need any help, I'd be glad to. Including co-maintaining it if you're
willing to include it in Debian.

bert.


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Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount

2012-08-07 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)
Hi Bert,

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 14:20 +0200, berta...@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:00:59PM +, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) wrote:
 You make a point. If I asked for the status of this packaging, it's
 because I was willing to stand up for maintaining it if no one was
 wiling to do so.
 I've packaged it and it's ready to upload. After reconsider everything,
I say just drop it. Two shell scripts for a package simply doesn't worth
it IMHO. Especially that both are zsh specific (the user have to install
zsh to run them) and it needs root rights. This can break anytime a
called binary changes it's command line flags or differ in its output.

 Great, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, I'm curious too.
 Upstream already did some packaging work in its debian0 branch. Also if
 you need any help, I'd be glad to. Including co-maintaining it if you're
 willing to include it in Debian.
 God forbid, but even if I upload it, I think two shell scripts don't
worth more than one maintainer. I say cryptmount should be used instead.
They differ in several ways, but it is a much better solution in
general.

Sorry for the noise,
Laszlo/GCS


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Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount

2012-08-06 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)
Hi,

Without too much reading, it seems tomb and cryptmount somewhat similar.
The latter is already in the archives and stable. What's the most
important differences (if any)?

Laszlo/GCS


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