Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Tim,

Tim tim-deb...@sentinelchicken.org (04/03/2011):
 I recently updated all packages and ran into X crashes with the
 radeon driver.  So, I fell back to vesa to see if I could at least
 get a GUI again.  No luck.  When starting X from the command line I
 just get a black screen.  I don't see anything in the logs that
 indicate what might be going on.

as in “X :0”? That's normal, you get a black background and no X
client by default. You could try:
  X :0  sleep 5; DISPLAY=:0 xterm

Your log indeed looks fine. There's the fbdev driver you could try by
the way. Or disabling KMS to see if that helps with your radeon
issue. Is the bug you're having with radeon reported in the BTS?

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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Tim
Hi Cyril,

Thanks for your prompt reply.

 as in “X :0”? That's normal, you get a black background and no X
 client by default. You could try:
   X :0  sleep 5; DISPLAY=:0 xterm

Ok, its been a long time since I ran X directly, as I normally use
xdm.  There have been so many different issues that have come up with
Xorg in general (window manager config changes, etc) after the last
upgrade that I've had a hard time narrowing down where the problem is.
So let me back up and show you what I'm seeing with xdm:

Currently, with both the radeon driver (with radeon kernel module
loaded) and with vesa (with radeon not loaded) I am able to get to the
xdm login screen.  However, once I log in, xdm reports that X crashes.
See the attached log.

In the case of radeon, when this happens my video is completely toast
and I have to reboot.  With vesa, at least I can recover and try
logging in again or stop xdm.  However, the console font becomes so
big after trying with vesa that it's very hard to use the console.

 Your log indeed looks fine. There's the fbdev driver you could try by
 the way. Or disabling KMS to see if that helps with your radeon
 issue. Is the bug you're having with radeon reported in the BTS?

I did try the fbdev driver with radeon loaded.  I have not tried
disabling KMS yet, but I'm starting to think this may not be directly
related to the video driver.

Let me know what you think.
thanks much,
tim



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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Tim
Hi John,

 I'll restate the obvious.  note I'm not part of
 xserver-xorg-video-vesa team - so look for more answers.
 
 make sure your linux kernel has radeon support.  make sure X loads
 the modules.  make sure X.org supports the chipset that is actually
 on the card.

Yes, as I mentioned I'm using the latest generic kernel which does
include the radeon module.  Normally I use a custom built kernel which
also has radeon+KMS, but I fell back to the generic in case I had
screwed up some build options.

As for support of the chipset... well the radeon kernel module doesn't
complain about anything.  It is an R580 which is well within the
series supported by the radeon team.

Thanks,
tim



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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Tim
figures... forgot to attach the log.

tim


Sat Mar  5 08:06:01 2011 xdm info (pid 1776): Starting
Sat Mar  5 08:06:01 2011 xdm info (pid 1776): Starting X server on :0

X.Org X Server 1.9.4
Release Date: 2011-02-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux shannon 2.6.37-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Feb 27 
10:12:22 UTC 2011 x86_64
Kernel command line: root=UUID=2c3be234-03c7-470d-abe8-322c4b19df93 ro 
Build Date: 20 February 2011  04:48:15AM
xorg-server 2:1.9.4-3 (Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org) 
Current version of pixman: 0.21.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Mar  5 08:06:02 2011
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
Sat Mar  5 08:06:05 2011 xdm info (pid 1790): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup
Sat Mar  5 08:06:09 2011 xdm info (pid 1790): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
Sat Mar  5 08:06:09 2011 xdm info (pid 1799): executing session 
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x45ceb8]
1: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x64cd9) [0x464cd9]
2: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f6165336000+0xef60) [0x7f6165344f60]
3: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x37631) [0x437631]
4: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x38b2d) [0x438b2d]
5: /usr/bin/X (ProcessWorkQueue+0x21) [0x43afa1]
6: /usr/bin/X (WaitForSomething+0x82) [0x4653f2]
7: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x32b12) [0x432b12]
8: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x2573b) [0x42573b]
9: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x7f6164098c4d]
10: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x252c9) [0x4252c9]
Segmentation fault at address 0x14

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional 
information.

Sat Mar  5 08:06:10 2011 xdm error (pid 1776): Server for display :0 terminated 
unexpectedly: 1536
Sat Mar  5 08:06:10 2011 xdm info (pid 1790): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset
Sat Mar  5 08:06:10 2011 xdm info (pid 1776): Starting X server on :0

X.Org X Server 1.9.4
Release Date: 2011-02-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux shannon 2.6.37-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Feb 27 
10:12:22 UTC 2011 x86_64
Kernel command line: root=UUID=2c3be234-03c7-470d-abe8-322c4b19df93 ro 
Build Date: 20 February 2011  04:48:15AM
xorg-server 2:1.9.4-3 (Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org) 
Current version of pixman: 0.21.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Mar  5 08:06:10 2011
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
Sat Mar  5 08:06:12 2011 xdm info (pid 1848): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup
Sat Mar  5 08:06:19 2011 xdm info (pid 1776): Shutting down
Sat Mar  5 08:06:19 2011 xdm info (pid 1776): display :0 is being disabled
Sat Mar  5 08:06:19 2011 xdm info (pid 1776): Exiting


Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi,

Tim tim-deb...@sentinelchicken.org (05/03/2011):
 Currently, with both the radeon driver (with radeon kernel module
 loaded) and with vesa (with radeon not loaded) I am able to get to
 the xdm login screen.  However, once I log in, xdm reports that X
 crashes.  See the attached log.

I wish I could. ;)

If there's a backtrace there, try attaching a full backtrace:
  http://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/howto/use-gdb.html

KiBi.


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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Tim
 as in “X :0”? That's normal, you get a black background and no X
 client by default. You could try:
   X :0  sleep 5; DISPLAY=:0 xterm

I just tried this as well, as you suggested.  I fired up X with: 
  X :0 

and was able two switch back and forth between the blank X window and
the console.  Note that unlike with xdm, the mouse cursor did not show
up.  Next I ran:

DISPLAY=:0 urxvt

And at that point X crashed, just like it does when spawning from xdm.

Let me know if there are other things I should try.

thanks,
tim



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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Tim.

Tim tim-deb...@sentinelchicken.org (05/03/2011):
 I just tried this as well, as you suggested.  I fired up X with:
   X :0 
 
 and was able two switch back and forth between the blank X window and
 the console.  Note that unlike with xdm, the mouse cursor did not show
 up.

Alright, at least X works. I think the pointer only appears when the
first client comes up.

  Next I ran:
 
 DISPLAY=:0 urxvt
 
 And at that point X crashed, just like it does when spawning from xdm.
 
 Let me know if there are other things I should try.

Don't bother, I think I know what fails. Try to remove those lines
from your config:
| Section Files
| FontPathunix/:7100# local font server
| FontPathunix/:7101# local font server
| EndSection

IIRC, the xfs-related bug upstream is that one:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31501

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2011-03-05 Thread Tim
 Don't bother, I think I know what fails. Try to remove those lines
 from your config:
 | Section Files
 | FontPathunix/:7100# local font server
 | FontPathunix/:7101# local font server
 | EndSection
 
 IIRC, the xfs-related bug upstream is that one:
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31501


Oh, cheesh, that works.
Sorry, I didn't see your replies right away because they got stuffed
in my spam bucket.

So yeah, I am able to use X fine now with radeon and everything.
Hopefully that patch makes it downstream soon.

Sorry for posting that extra bug, didn't see your solution at that
point.

Thanks much,
tim



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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Tim tim-deb...@sentinelchicken.org (05/03/2011):
 Oh, cheesh, that works.

Great.

 Sorry, I didn't see your replies right away because they got stuffed
 in my spam bucket.

D'oh. :D

 Sorry for posting that extra bug, didn't see your solution at that
 point.

I guess I might use it as the “main” XFS bug and merge other ones with
it, no worries.

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Bug#616511: xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Blank screen on ATI R580

2011-03-04 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
I'll restate the obvious.  note I'm not part of xserver-xorg-video-vesa 
team - so look for more answers.


make sure your linux kernel has radeon support.  make sure X loads the 
modules.  make sure X.org supports the chipset that is actually on the card.




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