Bug#668076: reSIProcate packages RFS

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 10/04/12 11:34, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 11:35:18AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:


 On 09/04/12 10:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:


 Hi,

 I've recently filed an RFS for reSIProcate

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/04/msg00168.html

 I didn't yet try to build it, but at first glance the packaging looks
 good.

 One minor nit: The license is a 4-cluase BSD-like license. Is this
 intended to be a used as a library? Clause (3) from the license makes it
 *GPL incompatible. Any hope of fixing that?

 I believe you are referring to this clause:

  3. The names VOCAL, Vovida Open Communication Application Library,
  and Vovida Open Communication Application Library (VOCAL) must
  not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
  software without prior written permission. For written
  permission, please contact vo...@vovida.org.
 
 Sorry, my mistake. I see that Clause (4) was added (regarding the usage
 of the name VOCAL). So no advertisement cluase there.
 

 http://www.resiprocate.org/License

 Here is some background info about VOCAL:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOCAL

 I'm not sure if Vovida or VOCAL still exists in some formal sense, and
 if so, I don't know whether the clause is still valid or even relevant

 reSIProcate broke away from SIPfoundry and some of the other projects
 some years ago too, so it is quite independent

 Can you comment more on the relationship of this clause with the GPL?

 Does it just prevent linking with *GPL apps, or does it prevent
 inclusion in Debian outright?  As it is now, could it go in contrib or
 non-free rather than main?
 
 Even if there were any issue with linking with GPL programs, this
 certianly wouldn't have kept it from main (see e.g. openssl and apache).
 


There is a new release candidate, this includes many of the new 1.8
features now, detailed in emails on dev list:
http://list.resiprocate.org/archive/resiprocate-devel/msg08006.html
http://list.resiprocate.org/archive/resiprocate-devel/msg08008.html

I've tweaked the main binaries (repro and reTurn) to write PID files and
daemonize themselves, and the config files are now more UNIX friendly,
e.g. they support /etc/ssl/certs now

As it is a release candidate and not an official tarball, would you be
willing to act as a sponsor and upload it to experimental?

http://mentors.debian.net/package/resiprocate





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Bug#668076: reSIProcate packages RFS

2012-04-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 11:35:18AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 
 
 On 09/04/12 10:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I've recently filed an RFS for reSIProcate
 
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/04/msg00168.html
  
  I didn't yet try to build it, but at first glance the packaging looks
  good.
  
  One minor nit: The license is a 4-cluase BSD-like license. Is this
  intended to be a used as a library? Clause (3) from the license makes it
  *GPL incompatible. Any hope of fixing that?
 
 I believe you are referring to this clause:
 
  3. The names VOCAL, Vovida Open Communication Application Library,
  and Vovida Open Communication Application Library (VOCAL) must
  not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
  software without prior written permission. For written
  permission, please contact vo...@vovida.org.

Sorry, my mistake. I see that Clause (4) was added (regarding the usage
of the name VOCAL). So no advertisement cluase there.

 
 http://www.resiprocate.org/License
 
 Here is some background info about VOCAL:
 
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOCAL
 
 I'm not sure if Vovida or VOCAL still exists in some formal sense, and
 if so, I don't know whether the clause is still valid or even relevant
 
 reSIProcate broke away from SIPfoundry and some of the other projects
 some years ago too, so it is quite independent
 
 Can you comment more on the relationship of this clause with the GPL?
 
 Does it just prevent linking with *GPL apps, or does it prevent
 inclusion in Debian outright?  As it is now, could it go in contrib or
 non-free rather than main?

Even if there were any issue with linking with GPL programs, this
certianly wouldn't have kept it from main (see e.g. openssl and apache).

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Bug#668076: reSIProcate packages RFS

2012-04-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi,

On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've recently filed an RFS for reSIProcate
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/04/msg00168.html

I didn't yet try to build it, but at first glance the packaging looks
good.

One minor nit: The license is a 4-cluase BSD-like license. Is this
intended to be a used as a library? Clause (3) from the license makes it
*GPL incompatible. Any hope of fixing that?

 
 If anyone is interested in reviewing or collaborating on this, please
 get in touch.  I'd also be interested to know if pkg-voip-maintainers
 should be registered as the maintainer for this work.
 
 In particular, the packages provide a working instance of the repro SIP
 proxy and the reTurn TURN server

Looks interesting. I see you've already merged your autotool fixes in
upstream trunk.

Also note that if you switch to dpkg v.3, there's nothing wrong with
having a debian/ directory upstream (if it helps them). It just gets
deleted at packaging time.

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Bug#668076: reSIProcate packages RFS

2012-04-09 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 09/04/12 10:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:


 Hi,

 I've recently filed an RFS for reSIProcate

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/04/msg00168.html
 
 I didn't yet try to build it, but at first glance the packaging looks
 good.
 
 One minor nit: The license is a 4-cluase BSD-like license. Is this
 intended to be a used as a library? Clause (3) from the license makes it
 *GPL incompatible. Any hope of fixing that?

I believe you are referring to this clause:

 3. The names VOCAL, Vovida Open Communication Application Library,
 and Vovida Open Communication Application Library (VOCAL) must
 not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
 software without prior written permission. For written
 permission, please contact vo...@vovida.org.

http://www.resiprocate.org/License

Here is some background info about VOCAL:

   http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOCAL

I'm not sure if Vovida or VOCAL still exists in some formal sense, and
if so, I don't know whether the clause is still valid or even relevant

reSIProcate broke away from SIPfoundry and some of the other projects
some years ago too, so it is quite independent

Can you comment more on the relationship of this clause with the GPL?

Does it just prevent linking with *GPL apps, or does it prevent
inclusion in Debian outright?  As it is now, could it go in contrib or
non-free rather than main?


 If anyone is interested in reviewing or collaborating on this, please
 get in touch.  I'd also be interested to know if pkg-voip-maintainers
 should be registered as the maintainer for this work.

 In particular, the packages provide a working instance of the repro SIP
 proxy and the reTurn TURN server
 
 Looks interesting. I see you've already merged your autotool fixes in
 upstream trunk.
 
 Also note that if you switch to dpkg v.3, there's nothing wrong with
 having a debian/ directory upstream (if it helps them). It just gets
 deleted at packaging time.

It may be better to manage it separately on alioth/collab-maint (Gregor
already started a Git repo there), so that people who are not members of
the reSIProcate project can make changes if needed.

Having two versions (one in upstream and another on alioth) may also
lead to confusion, even though it is technically permitted now.

However, I don't mind either way.



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