Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
tags 680505 + pending
thanks
Hey folks,
Here's the diff of what I pushed to svn:
| Index: debian/changelog
| ===
| --- debian/changelog(revision 298)
| +++ debian/changelog(revision 297)
| @@ -9,8 +9,6 @@
|* Add ${misc:Depends} to the Depends for the binary package. We're using
| debhelper, so we should behave nicely.
|* Updated GDM KDM's login background to have branding in the lower-right.
| - * Inverting the GRUB highlight colors. This helps those who might be hard
| -of sight, or think it's generally hard to see. (Closes: #680505)
|
| -- Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:24:40 -0400
|
| Index: grub/grub_background.sh
| ===
| --- grub/grub_background.sh (revision 298)
| +++ grub/grub_background.sh (revision 297)
| @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
| WALLPAPER=/usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png
| -COLOR_NORMAL=white/black
| -COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=black/white
| +COLOR_NORMAL=light-gray/black
| +COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=white/black
It's a bit more classic grub, but I think we're going for more classic this
cycle anyway.
Thanks, everyone!
Paul
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Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
The background image looks nice in Grub2, but the text color really has to be changed to something with better contrast with respect to the background colors! I'd vote for magenta as color for the highlighted text. I think it also was like this when text-on-background was first introduced in GRUB and magenta comes most close to the color of the Debian swirl. - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
Am 10.07.2012 11:21, schrieb Fabian Greffrath: I'd vote for magenta as color for the highlighted text. I think it also was like this when text-on-background was first introduced in GRUB and magenta comes most close to the color of the Debian swirl. IMHO, this looks just great and provides enough contrast against the background image: --- a/usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh.orig +++ b/usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ WALLPAPER=/usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png -COLOR_NORMAL=light-gray/black -COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=white/black +COLOR_NORMAL=white/black +COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=light-magenta/black ALternatively, one could use black text on a magenta (not necessarily light-magenta) background, which would even more distinguish selected from non-selected menu entries. - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:41:17AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 10.07.2012 11:21, schrieb Fabian Greffrath: I'd vote for magenta as color for the highlighted text. I think it also was like this when text-on-background was first introduced in GRUB and magenta comes most close to the color of the Debian swirl. IMHO, this looks just great and provides enough contrast against the background image: --- a/usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh.orig +++ b/usr/share/desktop-base/grub_background.sh @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ WALLPAPER=/usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png -COLOR_NORMAL=light-gray/black -COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=white/black +COLOR_NORMAL=white/black +COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=light-magenta/black Thanks for the patch! :) ALternatively, one could use black text on a magenta (not necessarily light-magenta) background, which would even more distinguish selected from non-selected menu entries. - Fabian Thanks for your input :) However, the swirl isn't Magenta -- it's white, and a red seems out of place on a blue / white color theme. Let's see if we can't find something that matches the color scheme :) -Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
Am 10.07.2012 13:04, schrieb Paul Tagliamonte: However, the swirl isn't Magenta -- it's white, and a red seems out of place on a blue / white color theme. The *original* Debian swirl is (nearly) magenta, so we could make the highlighted menu entry an innuendo to its original color. Let's see if we can't find something that matches the color scheme :) Still on the magenta trail, I found those two quite appealing as well: (dark) COLOR_NORMAL=white/black COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=black/magenta (light) COLOR_NORMAL=white/black COLOR_HIGHLIGHT=white/light-magenta But I'll leave the final hard decision up to you. ;) - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 09:35:59 -0400 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 03:46:16PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: Package: desktop-base Version: 7.0.0 Severity: normal With new light background image, white Grub text has too low contrast making text hard to read. I ACK this problem. I also noticed the same issue, as soon as I rebooted after upgrading to desktop-base/7.0.0 . The background image looks nice in Grub2, but the text color really has to be changed to something with better contrast with respect to the background colors! Also image brightness varies in different part of the image. Consider making image use more homogenous brightness when text is printed over it and if using light colour background make text colour darker. This is the style the author of the theme has gone with. I'm sure we can find a color that works without destorying his vision for the work. I really hope so. And I hope this fix can get a freeze exception: by the way, I think that normal severity is too low for this bug report, I would raise it to at least important... -- http://www.inventati.org/frx/frx-gpg-key-transition-2010.txt New GnuPG key, see the transition document! . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == CA01 1147 9CD2 EFDF FB82 3925 3E1C 27E1 1F69 BFFE pgp9V3Dtgchnt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 05:43:22PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 09:35:59 -0400 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 03:46:16PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: Package: desktop-base Version: 7.0.0 Severity: normal With new light background image, white Grub text has too low contrast making text hard to read. I ACK this problem. I also noticed the same issue, as soon as I rebooted after upgrading to desktop-base/7.0.0 . The background image looks nice in Grub2, but the text color really has to be changed to something with better contrast with respect to the background colors! Also image brightness varies in different part of the image. Consider making image use more homogenous brightness when text is printed over it and if using light colour background make text colour darker. This is the style the author of the theme has gone with. I'm sure we can find a color that works without destorying his vision for the work. I really hope so. And I hope this fix can get a freeze exception: by the way, I think that normal severity is too low for this bug report, I would raise it to at least important... The release team will look at the bugs, artificially pushing up the severity assumes the release-team won't take a critical look at what's changed. It's early in the cycle and this isn't a vanity package. We should have no problem, assuming they are bugfixes. -- http://www.inventati.org/frx/frx-gpg-key-transition-2010.txt New GnuPG key, see the transition document! . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == CA01 1147 9CD2 EFDF FB82 3925 3E1C 27E1 1F69 BFFE cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 11:53:31 -0400 Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 05:43:22PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] And I hope this fix can get a freeze exception: by the way, I think that normal severity is too low for this bug report, I would raise it to at least important... The release team will look at the bugs, Sure. artificially pushing up the severity assumes the release-team won't take a critical look at what's changed. What I meant was not suggesting to artificially raise the severity: I really think that the correct severity for this bug is important, since it does have a major effect on the usability of the package. However, I am not the original bug report submitter, nor a maintainer of this package: I will leave to you to decide whether the severity should be changed... It's early in the cycle and this isn't a vanity package. We should have no problem, assuming they are bugfixes. Good! Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. Bye. -- http://www.inventati.org/frx/frx-gpg-key-transition-2010.txt New GnuPG key, see the transition document! . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == CA01 1147 9CD2 EFDF FB82 3925 3E1C 27E1 1F69 BFFE pgp3jfuf0pJbB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
Package: desktop-base Version: 7.0.0 Severity: normal With new light background image, white Grub text has too low contrast making text hard to read. Also image brightness varies in different part of the image. Consider making image use more homogenous brightness when text is printed over it and if using light colour background make text colour darker. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages desktop-base depends on: ii dpkg 1.16.4.3 ii librsvg2-common 2.36.1-1 desktop-base recommends no packages. Versions of packages desktop-base suggests: ii xfce4 4.8.0.3 -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 03:46:16PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: Package: desktop-base Version: 7.0.0 Severity: normal With new light background image, white Grub text has too low contrast making text hard to read. I ACK this problem. Also image brightness varies in different part of the image. Consider making image use more homogenous brightness when text is printed over it and if using light colour background make text colour darker. This is the style the author of the theme has gone with. I'm sure we can find a color that works without destorying his vision for the work. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages desktop-base depends on: ii dpkg 1.16.4.3 ii librsvg2-common 2.36.1-1 desktop-base recommends no packages. Versions of packages desktop-base suggests: ii xfce4 4.8.0.3 -- no debconf information I thank you for the report! Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org : :' : Proud Debian Developer `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#680505: desktop-base: Text has too low contrast with new Grub background
Hi, Le 06/07/2012 à 16:48, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org écrivit : Also image brightness varies in different part of the image. Consider making image use more homogenous brightness when text is printed over it and if using light colour background make text colour darker. This is the style the author of the theme has gone with. I'm sure we can find a color that works without destorying his vision for the work. I'm concerned about this because I wouldn't want to see the theme changed. I hope higher contrast can be achieved for those who wish it by simply changing the text color. I'll see what color can be used. If no one is suitable, I may render a darker background for grub. Let's get s'more opinions. I didn't really have a problem with it, and I didn't notice until the reporter pointed it out, so let's get s'more opionons before we go and do that :) I agree the text to background contrast is too low, and I have a hard time seeing the grub countdown. It's interesting that you notice it, too. I wonder if the type of display (CRT vs LCD or even type of LCD) has something to do with it. Looks gorgeous on all the LCDs here. I have found the contrast to be too low on both the screens I saw it on: my Thinkpad x61s (laptop, 1024x768), and my desktop (it's a 24 inch iiyama LCD screen, and I'm not quite certain what is the resolution in early boot. It's certainly not the native 1920x1080 though). Thanks for looking into this issue! Cheers, -- Nicolas Dandrimont -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
