Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-10-18 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 18.10.2016 um 20:19 schrieb Santiago Vila: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Sigh, you really like to argue [...] > > No, I don't really like to argue. > And I don't care anymore. I have better things to do then pointlessly argue about nonimportant stuff. If you think it's

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-10-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Michael Biebl wrote: > Sigh, you really like to argue [...] No, I don't really like to argue. I was trying to be nice by explaining things with detail instead of moving the discussion to -devel, the technical committee or the release managers. If you just "don't like to

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 04:46:04PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Can you get us a proper backtrace of such a crash. It should be possible > to only run tests/multipart-test in gdb I get this: [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.09.2016 um 21:04 schrieb Santiago Vila: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:26:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> I don't see what we would gain by disabling the failing tests. >> They are there to catch regressions after all. So this would be a step >> backwards. > > Fixing RC bugs have

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:26:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > I don't see what we would gain by disabling the failing tests. > They are there to catch regressions after all. So this would be a step > backwards. Fixing RC bugs have multiple benefits :-) We would avoid the package from being

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.09.2016 um 15:26 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Of course, the better option would be if you can investigate why it > fails on your particular setup. This would be very much appreciated. > I'm not saying, that there isn't a race somewhere. The point is that > disabling is not the answer and it's

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.09.2016 um 12:12 schrieb Santiago Vila: > So: Can we already disable the tests that fail? Do you want help to > reproduce this for yourself? Maybe that would unblock this issue. > I could give you access to a machine in which this fails more than 50% > of the time. Would you agree to make

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:54:33PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 25.09.2016 um 15:30 schrieb Santiago Vila: > > I still think downgrading is wrong. It is your interpretation of > > release policy that packages "must autobuild" only refers to the > > official autobuilders? > >

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.09.2016 um 15:30 schrieb Santiago Vila: > Thanks for ignoring completely 12 different failed build logs when > considering whether this "builds from source" or it does not. > > Very motivating as well. > > I still think downgrading is wrong. It is your interpretation of > release policy

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-25 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 03:10:11PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 25.09.2016 um 13:01 schrieb Santiago Vila: > > They do autobuild, see > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=libsoup2.4 They don't, see all the failed build logs I attached:

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-25 Thread Santiago Vila
Thanks for ignoring completely 12 different failed build logs when considering whether this "builds from source" or it does not. Very motivating as well. I still think downgrading is wrong. It is your interpretation of release policy that packages "must autobuild" only refers to the official

Bug#710696: severity of 710696 is serious, because it's a FTBFS bug

2016-09-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.09.2016 um 13:01 schrieb Santiago Vila: > According to "Packages must autobuild without failure" > in release policy: They do autobuild, see https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=libsoup2.4 > If the maintainer does not have the time or the patience to disable > the tests that