Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-02-07 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Dariusz Dwornikowski dariusz.dwornikow...@cs.put.poznan.pl, 2014-02-03, 
08:46:
I do not want to close old bugs. Just asking, what will happen with 
bugs for older versions that e.g. are not used anywhere no more? Will 
these bugs hang forever or is there a cleaning policy ?


The bugs will remain open until someone closes them. I'm not sure what 
you mean by cleaning policy.


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Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-02-07 Thread The Wanderer
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On 02/03/2014 02:46 AM, Dariusz Dwornikowski wrote:

 I do not want to close old bugs. Just asking, what will happen with
 bugs for older versions that e.g. are not used anywhere no more? Will
 these bugs hang forever or is there a cleaning policy ?

Whether to close a bug has, AFAIK, nothing to do with whether the
version it was reported against is still in use. It's entirely about
whether the bug exists in current packaged versions.

If the bug is still valid - meaning, mostly, if the behavior described
in the bug A: is in fact considered a bug and B: still exists in the
current version - the bug should remain open, even if that means
remaining open forever.

If the behavior described in the bug no longer exists in the current
version, but for some reason the bug wasn't closed when the fix was
first released, then I'd imagine that the bug should be closed manually
(with a comment explaining that the bug is know to be fixed as of
such-and-such a version).


In the specific case of the bug you tried to close (twice) in the
changelog which led to this subthread discussion, the correct thing to
do is not clear at a glance. This is because you gave two different
explanations of why you were closing it, and the two explanations
disagree with one another.


One explanation was upstream won't fix. This seems to imply that the
behavior described does still exist in the current packaged version, and
that upstream has refused to change it.

I believe that would be handled one of two ways:

* Decide that the behavior described isn't really a bug after all, and
close the bug report.

* Decide that the behavior is a bug, and leave the bug report open to
reflect the fact that the behavior still exists in the current packaged
version.


The other explanation was not relevant anymore. This seems to imply
that the behavior described no longer exists in the current packaged
version, but that for some reason the bug wasn't closed when the change
actually occurred.

I think that in that case, the correct thing to do would be to close the
bug report manually (not via a changelog entry), with a comment
explaining that the bug is known to have been fixed sometime before
version Such-and-such. I'm not an expert on these matters, however.


I hope that helps. (And that I haven't gotten anything wrong anywhere.)

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Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-02-02 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Dariusz Dwornikowski dariusz.dwornikow...@cs.put.poznan.pl, 2014-01-31, 
21:02:

Should these bugs be then closed manually ?


Which bugs, and why do you want to close them?

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Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-02-02 Thread Dariusz Dwornikowski
I do not want to close old bugs. Just asking, what will happen with bugs
for older versions that e.g. are not used anywhere no more? Will these bugs
hang forever or is there a cleaning policy ?


On 2 February 2014 22:23, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote:

 * Dariusz Dwornikowski dariusz.dwornikow...@cs.put.poznan.pl,
 2014-01-31, 21:02:

  Should these bugs be then closed manually ?


 Which bugs, and why do you want to close them?


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Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-01-31 Thread Dariusz Dwornikowski
Package: sponsorship-requests
  Severity: normal

  Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package linuxlogo

 * Package name: linuxlogo
   Version : 5.11-4
   Upstream Author : Vince Weaver
 * URL :  http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/
 * License : GPL-2
   Section : misc

  It builds those binary packages:

linuxlogo  - Color ANSI System Logo

  To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/linuxlogo


  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/linuxlogo/linuxlogo_5.11-4.dsc

  More information about hello can be obtained from http://www.example.com.

  Changes since the last upload:

  *  Migrated to dh

  *  ITA (Closes: #726550)

  *  Closes: #187655, upstream won't fix

  *  Closes: #187655, not relevant anymore

  *  Bump standards to 3.9.5

  *  New logos added (Raspberry PI and OpenBSD)

  *  Migrated to quilt 3.0 format


  Regards,
   Dariusz Dwornikowski

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Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-01-31 Thread Jakub Wilk

I don't intend to sponsor this package, sorry!

It would have been better if you hadn't explicitly CC debian-mentors@ldo 
when subitting the RFS bug. The mailing list receives all the bugreports 
anyway; but if you CC it, it gets a copy without the bug number 
assigned.


* Dariusz Dwornikowski dariusz.dwornikow...@cs.put.poznan.pl, 2014-01-31, 
12:27:

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/linuxlogo/linuxlogo_5.11-4.dsc

 More information about hello can be obtained from http://www.example.com.


Oh really, example.com? :)


 *  Closes: #187655, upstream won't fix
 *  Closes: #187655, not relevant anymore


Why close the same bug twice?
Anyway, Developer's Reference §5.8.4 reads: “Do not close bugs in the 
changelog entry of a version if the changes in that version of the 
package don't have any bearing on the bug.”


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Bug#737208: RFS: linuxlogo/5.11-4

2014-01-31 Thread Dariusz Dwornikowski
Ok thank You, I will fix these asap. Should these bugs be then closed
manually ?


On 31 January 2014 20:17, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org wrote:

 I don't intend to sponsor this package, sorry!

 It would have been better if you hadn't explicitly CC debian-mentors@ldowhen 
 subitting the RFS bug. The mailing list receives all the bugreports
 anyway; but if you CC it, it gets a copy without the bug number assigned.

 * Dariusz Dwornikowski dariusz.dwornikow...@cs.put.poznan.pl,
 2014-01-31, 12:27:

 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/linuxlogo/
 linuxlogo_5.11-4.dsc

  More information about hello can be obtained from http://www.example.com
 .


 Oh really, example.com? :)

   *  Closes: #187655, upstream won't fix
  *  Closes: #187655, not relevant anymore


 Why close the same bug twice?
 Anyway, Developer's Reference §5.8.4 reads: “Do not close bugs in the
 changelog entry of a version if the changes in that version of the package
 don't have any bearing on the bug.”

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