Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
[ CC'ed #758234 as Stuart's questions are also related to that. ] Stuart Prescott stu...@debian.org writes: Gerrit Pape p...@dbnbgs.smarden.org writes: Since discussion on this topic seems to have stopped, I suggest this patch to remove the priority extra for Debian packages. All packages

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Stuart Prescott stu...@debian.org writes: I find Priority: extra useful for at least transitional packages, detached debug symbols, and packages conflicting with packages of priority = important (or maybe = standard) that will continue to do so, say

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Russ Allbery: Could you say more about why you think conflicting packages having a separate priority from optional is useful? When would people use that priority information, and how? Let's assume that I have a large multiuser Debian system. I don't want to be bothered by people

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Stuart Prescott stu...@debian.org writes: Related to that: Given d-i/debootstrap are the main users, I think having d-i ignore the priority of library packages already[1] is an indication that allowing packages to

Bug#759260: Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Stuart Prescott stu...@debian.org writes: I find Priority: extra useful for at least transitional packages, detached debug symbols, and packages conflicting with packages of priority = important (or maybe =

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de writes: Russ Allbery: Could you say more about why you think conflicting packages having a separate priority from optional is useful? When would people use that priority information, and how? Let's assume that I have a large multiuser Debian system. I

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Russ Allbery: Let's assume that I have a large multiuser Debian system. I don't want to be bothered by people requesting this or that package all the time, so I simply install everything that's of priority extra. Has anyone actually done this in the last five years? I'm extremely

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional

2014-08-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:43:16AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs a écrit : Russ Allbery: Do you actually do this? Is optional actually conflict-free? I'm pretty sure it isn't. No, it's not. But I'd like it to be. However, if a consensus should emerge that it's too much hassle to file