Bug#768163: CUPS and CM option
Hi Till and Joe, Le mardi, 25 novembre 2014 16.02:53, vous avez écrit : Yes, cups-filters already is already implemented for color management. The original color-management-patch was more specialized for handling PPD per-queue operations. So there might have been some confusion as to its purpose in the last few years. The patch itself is still useful for individuals who want a modified interface for per-queue, but as Mike told me during the summer, this is not something that can be supported officially through the web interface. On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Till Kamppeter wrote: I think we do not really need this patch. What is does is allowing to set color calibration mode as default setting for a print queue via the CUPS web interface. But this option should only be set when calibrating the printer, not permanently, so Mike Sweet is right that this is a per-job option. It makes much more sense to post feature requests for the print dialogs (GTK, KDE, ...) or even to let it only get supplied by color calibration apps when sending the jobs with the calibrartion pages. The actual execution of the option happens completely in cups-filters, as the color correction based on the ICC profiles is done there. Thanks for your feedback; I will be dropping the patch in the next CUPS upload to Debian, hopefully in time for Jessie. Cheers, OdyX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#768163: CUPS and CM option
I think we do not really need this patch. What is does is allowing to set color calibration mode as default setting for a print queue via the CUPS web interface. But this option should only be set when calibrating the printer, not permanently, so Mike Sweet is right that this is a per-job option. It makes much more sense to post feature requests for the print dialogs (GTK, KDE, ...) or even to let it only get supplied by color calibration apps when sending the jobs with the calibrartion pages. The actual execution of the option happens completely in cups-filters, as the color correction based on the ICC profiles is done there. Till On 11/23/2014 01:50 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Hi Joe, hi Till, As you might have seen from this Debian bug (#768163), the Color management option is missing all non-english translations. I must say that I'm quite concerned by this Color management patch for the following reasons: - Debian's now in freeze; adding HTML template patches across 9 languages (without having resources to translate these…) is slightly invasive for this freeze phase. - In https://www.cups.org/str.php?L4462, upstream basically refused to accept your patch on a longer term. I will _not_ adopt the maintenance of this patch as Debian maintainer, so that questions the long-term maintainability of this patch. - There's still #763517 about a failure to work correctly (which is arguably in need of more info from the submitter). I'm now considering either of these options: a) Leave it as-is for Jessie; this leaves CUPS in jessie with no non- english translations for this feature at the advantage of not needing much work. I'm still questioning the responsibility for that patch over the course of the jessie stable release lifecycle. b) Patch 9 translations with english content; this makes CUPS in jessie with english texts in native translations, and I'm not sure that it will be accepted at this point of the release cycle by the release team. c) Drop the Color Management patch entirely for the Jessie release cycle: given that upstream has released the 2.0.x series and that, as far as I know, there is no color-management patch available for that codebase yet (and that upstream has declined to include your patch), I tend to think that this is the most future-proof decision for this patch. What's your opinion on this? TIA, cheers, OdyX Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 16.33:26 Pascal Obry a écrit : I just found out that on the CUPS page when defining (or modifying) a printer the Color Calibration Mode check box only appears only when the language of the desktop is set to English. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#768163: CUPS and CM option
Hi Till and Didier, Yes, cups-filters already is already implemented for color management. The original color-management-patch was more specialized for handling PPD per-queue operations. So there might have been some confusion as to its purpose in the last few years. The patch itself is still useful for individuals who want a modified interface for per-queue, but as Mike told me during the summer, this is not something that can be supported officially through the web interface. Joe Simon On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Till Kamppeter till.kamppe...@gmail.com wrote: I think we do not really need this patch. What is does is allowing to set color calibration mode as default setting for a print queue via the CUPS web interface. But this option should only be set when calibrating the printer, not permanently, so Mike Sweet is right that this is a per-job option. It makes much more sense to post feature requests for the print dialogs (GTK, KDE, ...) or even to let it only get supplied by color calibration apps when sending the jobs with the calibrartion pages. The actual execution of the option happens completely in cups-filters, as the color correction based on the ICC profiles is done there. Till On 11/23/2014 01:50 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Hi Joe, hi Till, As you might have seen from this Debian bug (#768163), the Color management option is missing all non-english translations. I must say that I'm quite concerned by this Color management patch for the following reasons: - Debian's now in freeze; adding HTML template patches across 9 languages (without having resources to translate these…) is slightly invasive for this freeze phase. - In https://www.cups.org/str.php?L4462, upstream basically refused to accept your patch on a longer term. I will _not_ adopt the maintenance of this patch as Debian maintainer, so that questions the long-term maintainability of this patch. - There's still #763517 about a failure to work correctly (which is arguably in need of more info from the submitter). I'm now considering either of these options: a) Leave it as-is for Jessie; this leaves CUPS in jessie with no non- english translations for this feature at the advantage of not needing much work. I'm still questioning the responsibility for that patch over the course of the jessie stable release lifecycle. b) Patch 9 translations with english content; this makes CUPS in jessie with english texts in native translations, and I'm not sure that it will be accepted at this point of the release cycle by the release team. c) Drop the Color Management patch entirely for the Jessie release cycle: given that upstream has released the 2.0.x series and that, as far as I know, there is no color-management patch available for that codebase yet (and that upstream has declined to include your patch), I tend to think that this is the most future-proof decision for this patch. What's your opinion on this? TIA, cheers, OdyX Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 16.33:26 Pascal Obry a écrit : I just found out that on the CUPS page when defining (or modifying) a printer the Color Calibration Mode check box only appears only when the language of the desktop is set to English.
Bug#768163: CUPS and CM option
Hi Joe, hi Till, As you might have seen from this Debian bug (#768163), the Color management option is missing all non-english translations. I must say that I'm quite concerned by this Color management patch for the following reasons: - Debian's now in freeze; adding HTML template patches across 9 languages (without having resources to translate these…) is slightly invasive for this freeze phase. - In https://www.cups.org/str.php?L4462, upstream basically refused to accept your patch on a longer term. I will _not_ adopt the maintenance of this patch as Debian maintainer, so that questions the long-term maintainability of this patch. - There's still #763517 about a failure to work correctly (which is arguably in need of more info from the submitter). I'm now considering either of these options: a) Leave it as-is for Jessie; this leaves CUPS in jessie with no non- english translations for this feature at the advantage of not needing much work. I'm still questioning the responsibility for that patch over the course of the jessie stable release lifecycle. b) Patch 9 translations with english content; this makes CUPS in jessie with english texts in native translations, and I'm not sure that it will be accepted at this point of the release cycle by the release team. c) Drop the Color Management patch entirely for the Jessie release cycle: given that upstream has released the 2.0.x series and that, as far as I know, there is no color-management patch available for that codebase yet (and that upstream has declined to include your patch), I tend to think that this is the most future-proof decision for this patch. What's your opinion on this? TIA, cheers, OdyX Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 16.33:26 Pascal Obry a écrit : I just found out that on the CUPS page when defining (or modifying) a printer the Color Calibration Mode check box only appears only when the language of the desktop is set to English. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#768163: CUPS and CM option
Package: CUPS Version: 1.7.5 I just found out that on the CUPS page when defining (or modifying) a printer the Color Calibration Mode check box only appears only when the language of the desktop is set to English. I found this because I'm French and using a french desktop on GNOME Shell. But this option was on a new box I had installed without all locales, so defaulting to English. I can confirm this, by switching from English to French and back the option Color Calibration Mode is present or not. Attached are two screen shots with the pages in French and in English. The screen shots are taken from the same computer. The only change was the default language. Regards, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://v2p.fr.eu.org http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B
