Bug#782777: [Aptitude-devel] Bug#782777: no more reproducible? (aptitude: marks certain packages as new and not auto-installed on every start of aptitude)

2015-04-18 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi,

Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 01:05 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote:
  Christoph: Can you check if you can still reproduce the issue?

 I made an update, and checked again,... but the files still reappear as
 new and non-auto.

Thanks for checking.

I was about to tag that bug confirmed and unpreproducible at the
same time. But it's back again since today on the machine I yesterday
investigated the effect of downgrading apt to 1.0.9.7.

I currently assume that downgrading/upgrading to apt 1.0.9.7/1.0.9.8
doesn't immediately trigger it, but calling some commands (maybe
apt-get update via cron or playing around with apt-mark) is also
needed to change the state files accordingly which then trigger it.

A very strange (and surely annoying) issue. Will try to further
encircle it.

If someone else is reading this: I'd like to here if other people are
affected to see how widespread the issue is. I assume that only
systems where also experimental is present in the sources.list can be
affected, i.e. that this will not affect Jessie when released as
Stable (unless backports trigger it, too).

Regarding my own systems:

From those three who are currently online and also have experimental,
only two show that symptom, interestingly with different packages.

My Sid-Thinkpad has the issue with the same packages as Chris.

My Testing-Server-VM (with experimental and sid in the sources.list,
too, but prefering testing) shows the issue with exactly one package
which is not mentioned so far:

--\ New Packages (1)
  --\ libs - Collections of software routines (1)
--\ Debian (1)
  --\ experimental (1)
--\ main - The main Debian archive (1)
  --\ Priority standard (1)
p   libgnutls26   0   1.418 kB none   2.12.23-18

But neither my Sid-VM for development nor my Sid-EeePC show that
symptom, even not after apt-get update. Nor do two pure Jessie
systems I've checked. So apt 1.0.9.8 plus running apt-get update is
not a sufficient condition for this issue

I.e. I've not yet found out, which conditions all must be met to
trigger the issue, but I suspect that the following conditions are at
least necessary:

* experimental in sources.list
* apt 1.0.9.8 installed and at least once used

Will continue to have an eye on that issue. Any further observations
which may lead to a further encircling of that issue are very welcome.

Regards, Axel
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Bug#782777: [Aptitude-devel] Bug#782777: no more reproducible? (aptitude: marks certain packages as new and not auto-installed on every start of aptitude)

2015-04-18 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 15:08 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: 
 A very strange (and surely annoying) issue. Will try to further
 encircle it.
Thanks a lot for this, I'd have done much more testing myself... if I
wasn't kept busy with some btrfs issues right now :-/


 If someone else is reading this: I'd like to here if other people are
 affected to see how widespread the issue is. I assume that only
 systems where also experimental is present in the sources.list can be
 affected, i.e. that this will not affect Jessie when released as
 Stable (unless backports trigger it, too).
It should be noted, that, while I have experimental packages installed
(kernel + iceweasel) I do not have experimental enabled right now in my
sources.list.

Cheers,
Chris.


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Bug#782777: [Aptitude-devel] Bug#782777: no more reproducible? (aptitude: marks certain packages as new and not auto-installed on every start of aptitude)

2015-04-17 Thread Axel Beckert
Sorry, me again.

This gets stranger and stanger.

Axel Beckert wrote:
 I can partially reproduce this with pure apt -- but with both, 1.0.9.8
 and 1.0.9.7:
 
 # apt-mark showauto | fgrep libgcc-4.9-dev
 # apt-mark showmanual | fgrep libgcc-4.9-dev
 libgcc-4.9-dev
 # apt-mark auto libgcc-4.9-dev
 libgcc-4.9-dev set to automatically installed.
 # apt-mark showauto | fgrep libgcc-4.9-dev
 # apt-mark showmanual | fgrep libgcc-4.9-dev
 libgcc-4.9-dev
 #

Since I tried that with apt 1.0.9.7 as shown above and ran aptitude
update for the late evening mirror push, I can no more reproduce the
issue -- neither the 13 new packages show up in aptitude anymore nor
does libgcc-4.9-dev always get reset to being marked as manually
installed.

Maybe some weird dak hiccup? IIRC there were several mirror pushes
missing about a day ago.

Christoph: Can you check if you can still reproduce the issue?

Regards, Axel
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Bug#782777: [Aptitude-devel] Bug#782777: no more reproducible? (aptitude: marks certain packages as new and not auto-installed on every start of aptitude)

2015-04-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey.

On Sat, 2015-04-18 at 01:05 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: 
 Christoph: Can you check if you can still reproduce the issue?
I made an update, and checked again,... but the files still reappear as
new and non-auto.


Cheers,
Chris.


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