Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Hi Petter, On Do 22 Okt 2015 12:51:28 CEST, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Mike Gabriel] Ooops... Maybe... not sure about that... Petter? Holger? Someone with more knowledge on blends? Wolfgang is correct, tasks/ is the place to update. All other package lists are generated from those. Thanks for feedback. I will fix this over the weekend. Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/mailxchange/kronolith/fb.php?u=m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de pgpy1vebf2kIJ.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Hi Wolfgang, On Do 15 Okt 2015 22:21:34 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 07:45:43PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: @Wolfgang: What task shall libdns-mdns be added to in src:debian-edu package? education-networked? Maybe desktop-other is better suited; for a stock jessie workstation libdns-mdns is pulled in as a Depends of the desktop task, iirc. Also, it would be a good idea if someone else could test before if the installation of this package really solves the problem. I recently tested the above on a non-Debian Edu, but Debian jessie based network (at work). It seems that libnss-mdns is required on the CUPS server and all associated CUPS clients. Once the libnss-mdns package is installed on both ends, printing works well. I have just committed a patch to debian-edu.git that adds libnss-mdns to education-desktop-other and eduation-main-server tasks. Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/mailxchange/kronolith/fb.php?u=m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de pgpmluH8ebFGX.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
[Mike Gabriel] > Ooops... Maybe... not sure about that... Petter? Holger? Someone with > more knowledge on blends? Wolfgang is correct, tasks/ is the place to update. All other package lists are generated from those. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Hi Wolfgang, On Do 22 Okt 2015 11:28:27 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 07:44:54AM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: I have just committed a patch to debian-edu.git that adds libnss-mdns to education-desktop-other and eduation-main-server tasks. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC libnss-mdns should have been added to the tasks files tasks/desktop-other and tasks/main-server (and not to the .desc file). Wolfgang Ooops... Maybe... not sure about that... Petter? Holger? Someone with more knowledge on blends? Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/mailxchange/kronolith/fb.php?u=m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de pgp19WHeZw7YQ.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 07:44:54AM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > I have just committed a patch to debian-edu.git that adds libnss-mdns to > education-desktop-other and eduation-main-server tasks. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC libnss-mdns should have been added to the tasks files tasks/desktop-other and tasks/main-server (and not to the .desc file). Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Hi Wolfgang, On Mi 14 Okt 2015 18:17:17 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:31:04PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: On Mo 13 Jul 2015 11:07:18 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: >On IRC sunweaver pointed out that the existence of /etc/cups/client.conf >would break setting up locally attached printers (via locally running >cups). While this is true in general, there's a way to have local >printer(s) (attached to real workstations) configured centrally on >tjener. To get this working install the package p910nd on the >workstation and configure it, see man p910nd. (For a USB printer you >would set P910ND_OPTS="-f /dev/usb/lp0" and P910ND_START=1 in >/etc/default/p910nd.) Then you can set up this printer on tjener as >AppSocket/HP Jetdirect printer using 'socket://:9100' as >URI. For diskless workstations a similar app socket tool is available by >default, see the jessie manual how to set up printers attached to LTSP >clients. The question now remains: shall we simply ship /etc/cups/client.conf as package file in debian-edu-config or treat/create-if-not-there that file with cfengine. As the file only makes sense along with the instructions, it would IMO be best to add these to a Printing Know How chapter of the manual and to avoid shipping/creating the file. I don't like creating that file from scratch either. We don't know with what we will conflict later. However, deploying systems that cannot print via TJENER right away sounds a bit awkward, too, IMHO. The deeper question are... Why doesn't CUPS browsing work out of the box? Why does it require a BrowsePoll entry in cups-browsed.conf (at least it does here...)? Right? Basically, if cups-browsed is installed, the local cupsd of a Debian Edu client should "find" the shared printers on the network. Maybe we should attempt at getting this fixed? Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpGo80N0jHg5.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 08:22:47AM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > I don't like creating that file from scratch either. We don't know with what > we will conflict later. Right. > However, deploying systems that cannot print via TJENER right away sounds a > bit awkward, too, IMHO. Yes. > The deeper question are... > > Why doesn't CUPS browsing work out of the box? Because libdns-mdns isn't installed. That's what this bug report was all about originally (and why I filed it against debian-edu cause it's a task problem). So to fix the printing issue for stretch, this might be the way to go. As far as jessie is concerned I'm unsure if such a change would be acceptable, so I searched for another solution. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
On Do 15 Okt 2015 14:46:03 CEST, Giorgio Pioda wrote: since I run cfengine3 on all the clients for our special purposes, I've put a "BrowsePoll www:631" line into cups-browsed.conf. This is also a good conf. in situations like a multicast blocked network (like my Wifi). The same could be done via cfengine2 Skole install mechanism Regards Giorgio I have been thinking about this, as well... Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgp9RT47U_2Zn.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Control: reassign -1 debian-edu Hi Holger, hi Wolfgang, On Do 15 Okt 2015 18:32:57 CEST, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2015, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > Why doesn't CUPS browsing work out of the box? Because libdns-mdns isn't installed. That's what this bug report was all about originally (and why I filed it against debian-edu cause it's a task problem). So to fix the printing issue for stretch, this might be the way to go. As far as jessie is concerned I'm unsure if such a change would be acceptable, so I searched for another solution. I think adding libdns-mdns to the package depends is an acceptable solution to fix printing in Jessie. @Holger: Ack, @Wolfgang: What task shall libdns-mdns be added to in src:debian-edu package? education-networked? Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpBjpGgSTnr1.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:21:34PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > Maybe desktop-other is better suited; for a stock jessie workstation > libdns-mdns > is pulled in as a Depends of the desktop task, iirc. s/libdns-mdns/libnss-mdns/ Sorry, I've been mislead by the mail subject. That had been a typo in the bugreport and has been corrected afterwards. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 07:45:43PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > @Wolfgang: What task shall libdns-mdns be added to in src:debian-edu > package? education-networked? Maybe desktop-other is better suited; for a stock jessie workstation libdns-mdns is pulled in as a Depends of the desktop task, iirc. Also, it would be a good idea if someone else could test before if the installation of this package really solves the problem. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Hi, On Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2015, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > Why doesn't CUPS browsing work out of the box? > Because libdns-mdns isn't installed. That's what this bug report was all > about originally (and why I filed it against debian-edu cause it's a > task problem). > > So to fix the printing issue for stretch, this might be the way to go. > > As far as jessie is concerned I'm unsure if such a change would be > acceptable, so I searched for another solution. I think adding libdns-mdns to the package depends is an acceptable solution to fix printing in Jessie. cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:31:04PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > On Mo 13 Jul 2015 11:07:18 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > >On IRC sunweaver pointed out that the existence of /etc/cups/client.conf > >would break setting up locally attached printers (via locally running > >cups). While this is true in general, there's a way to have local > >printer(s) (attached to real workstations) configured centrally on > >tjener. To get this working install the package p910nd on the > >workstation and configure it, see man p910nd. (For a USB printer you > >would set P910ND_OPTS="-f /dev/usb/lp0" and P910ND_START=1 in > >/etc/default/p910nd.) Then you can set up this printer on tjener as > >AppSocket/HP Jetdirect printer using 'socket://:9100' as > >URI. For diskless workstations a similar app socket tool is available by > >default, see the jessie manual how to set up printers attached to LTSP > >clients. > > The question now remains: shall we simply ship /etc/cups/client.conf as > package file in debian-edu-config or treat/create-if-not-there that file > with cfengine. As the file only makes sense along with the instructions, it would IMO be best to add these to a Printing Know How chapter of the manual and to avoid shipping/creating the file. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#791995: debian-edu-config: should provide /etc/cups/client.conf to fix network printing on clients (was: debian-edu: task desktop-other should contain libdns-mdns as a Depends to fix printer setup
Hi Wolfgang, hi all, I only now saw below instructions. Nice!!! On Mo 13 Jul 2015 11:07:18 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 01:31:01PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:58:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > Sad to tell that it is different on a stock combi server: automatic > setup isn't available. > > But adding /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/cups/client.conf containing one line: > > ServerName tjener > > is enough to fix it. I don't know why it differs from a manually > installed LTSP chroot and I don't have the time to figure it out. > > About to install a clean jessie workstation. Might be that adding > /etc/cups/client.conf will be sufficient there as well. It is. On IRC sunweaver pointed out that the existence of /etc/cups/client.conf would break setting up locally attached printers (via locally running cups). While this is true in general, there's a way to have local printer(s) (attached to real workstations) configured centrally on tjener. To get this working install the package p910nd on the workstation and configure it, see man p910nd. (For a USB printer you would set P910ND_OPTS="-f /dev/usb/lp0" and P910ND_START=1 in /etc/default/p910nd.) Then you can set up this printer on tjener as AppSocket/HP Jetdirect printer using 'socket://:9100' as URI. For diskless workstations a similar app socket tool is available by default, see the jessie manual how to set up printers attached to LTSP clients. Wolfgang The question now remains: shall we simply ship /etc/cups/client.conf as package file in debian-edu-config or treat/create-if-not-there that file with cfengine. Suggestions welcome. Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpkgaA6PiFj4.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
