Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2018-01-04 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 at 12:26:43 +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > More importantly, several packages now require just systemd-sysv. If > apt is told to install libpam-systemd and such a package in the same > operation (especially in a chroot I'd say, since that's where neither > shim nor sysv is

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
s ("Re: Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd > > systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)"): > > > I think another major problem (with bug 883555) though is that > > > systemd-shim > > > is not Multi-Arch: foreign like systemd-sysv. In that

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Control: reassign 883555 systemd-shim Control: retitle 883555 systemd-shim should be Multi-Arch: foreign On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 06:19:28PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Julian Andres Klode writes ("Re: Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd > systemd-sysv dependency ordering (74657

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 06:48:45PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > gpsd netbase | systemd-sysv > mandos systemd-sysv | lsb-base (>= 3.0-6) > micro-httpd openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver | micro-inetd | netcat-traditional | systemd-sysv > munin cron | cron-daemon | systemd-sysv -- WBR,

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Julian Andres Klode writes ("Re: Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)"): > I think another major problem (with bug 883555) though is that systemd-shim > is not Multi-Arch: foreign like systemd-sysv. In that case, systemd-shim wa

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 05 Dec 2017, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:36:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > One question I have is about this: "several packages now require just > > systemd-sysv". Can someone refer to some examples, please ? > > $ grep-aptavail -FDepends systemd-sysv

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:36:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > One question I have is about this: "several packages now require just > systemd-sysv". Can someone refer to some examples, please ? Third random try from `reverse-depends systemd-sysv` yielded lava-server. -- WBR, wRAR

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:36:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Don Armstrong writes ("Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv > dependency ordering (746578)"): > > On Tue, 05 Dec 2017, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > I thus opened bug 883569 against

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Don Armstrong writes ("Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)"): > On Tue, 05 Dec 2017, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > I thus opened bug 883569 against systemd, but mbiebl would like to > > get permission from the you first. I t

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 05 Dec 2017, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > More importantly, several packages now require just systemd-sysv. If > apt is told to install libpam-systemd and such a package in the same > operation (especially in a chroot I'd say, since that's where neither > shim nor sysv is installed), it

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Julian, Le mardi, 5 décembre 2017, 12.26:43 h CET Julian Andres Klode a écrit : > In 746578, the CTTE decided that the dependency be swapped > to systemd-shim | systemd-sysv in order to prevent systems > from being upgraded installing systemd. > > (…) > > I thus opened bug 883569 against

Bug#883573: Reevaluate libpam-systemd systemd-sysv dependency ordering (746578)

2017-12-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: tech-ctte Severity: normal Control: block 883569 by -1 Dear CTTE, In 746578, the CTTE decided that the dependency be swapped to systemd-shim | systemd-sysv in order to prevent systems from being upgraded installing systemd. This argument should be moot now. Either dependency is