Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
Hi all, recently, src:ladish has been removed from testing for other reasons. If there are no other rdeps by now, how about we continue here and remove flowcanvas (at least from testing)? Cheers, Jann On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:29:08 +0100 Alessio Treglia wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:39 PM, Paul Brossier wrote: > > hi again, > > > > thanks for answering Felipe. > > > > Alessio, if cadence was in the archive, would removing the UI from > > ladish seem like a good solution? > > I agree, it would most definitely be the right solution. > > Thanks. > > -- > Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com > Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org > Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com > 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A > >
Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
Hi all, On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:39 PM, Paul Brossier wrote: > hi again, > > thanks for answering Felipe. > > Alessio, if cadence was in the archive, would removing the UI from > ladish seem like a good solution? I agree, it would most definitely be the right solution. Thanks. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A
Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
hi again, thanks for answering Felipe. Alessio, if cadence was in the archive, would removing the UI from ladish seem like a good solution? cheers, piem On 09/10/2018 11:33 PM, Filipe Coelho wrote: > hey all. > > ladish is pretty much dead. > that said, you could build the project with just the backend/CLI, and > leave the gtk ui behind. > this satisfies cadence (claudia) needs, since it actually implements a > full new frontend for ladish. > > if that is not an option, just remove ladish altogether and take it out > as dependency from cadence. > it is not a hard requirement for it to run, it will just lose some > features. > > > On 10.09.2018 22:20, Paul Brossier wrote: >> hi all, >> >> flowcanvas should definitely removed, and ganv adopted, since it is >> being used in newer tools such as Cadence (see >> https://github.com/falkTX/Cadence) >> >> ideally, ladish should be switched from using flowcanvas to using ganv. >> I started looking at that, but there is quite a few API changes between >> flowcanvas and ganv, so it is a bit more than a trivial search and >> replace. >> >> Maybe drobilla or falktx (CCed) would want to help here? >> >> cheers, piem >> >> >> On 01/28/2018 03:12 PM, treb...@tuxfamily.org wrote: >>> Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit : Source: flowcanvas Severity: important User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: proposed-removal Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 ladish Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed? flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its upstream website says: **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv! ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears to have commit activity upstream. flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish), whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014. >>> ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) >>> here : >>> https://github.com/alessio/ladish/ >>> (the same goes laditools as well) >>> >>> >>> These packages both seem like candidates for removal from unstable. >>> It would be a big regression from a user point of view since it'll >>> remove >>> the "studio" (reopen everything in one-click) from Debian with no >>> alternative. >>> >>> >>> If you agree, please reassign this bug to the ftp team with cont...@bugs.debian.org commands similar to these: severity xx normal reassign xx ftp.debian.org retitle xx RM: flowcanvas -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, superseded by ganv severity yy normal reassign yy ftp.debian.org retitle yy RM: ladish -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, appears unmaintained upstream (replacing RoQA with RoM if you are a maintainer of the appropriate package). Thanks, smcv >>> Hope that helps. >>> Olivier >>> > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
hey all. ladish is pretty much dead. that said, you could build the project with just the backend/CLI, and leave the gtk ui behind. this satisfies cadence (claudia) needs, since it actually implements a full new frontend for ladish. if that is not an option, just remove ladish altogether and take it out as dependency from cadence. it is not a hard requirement for it to run, it will just lose some features. On 10.09.2018 22:20, Paul Brossier wrote: hi all, flowcanvas should definitely removed, and ganv adopted, since it is being used in newer tools such as Cadence (see https://github.com/falkTX/Cadence) ideally, ladish should be switched from using flowcanvas to using ganv. I started looking at that, but there is quite a few API changes between flowcanvas and ganv, so it is a bit more than a trivial search and replace. Maybe drobilla or falktx (CCed) would want to help here? cheers, piem On 01/28/2018 03:12 PM, treb...@tuxfamily.org wrote: Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit : Source: flowcanvas Severity: important User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: proposed-removal Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 ladish Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed? flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its upstream website says: **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv! ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears to have commit activity upstream. flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish), whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014. ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) here : https://github.com/alessio/ladish/ (the same goes laditools as well) These packages both seem like candidates for removal from unstable. It would be a big regression from a user point of view since it'll remove the "studio" (reopen everything in one-click) from Debian with no alternative. If you agree, please reassign this bug to the ftp team with cont...@bugs.debian.org commands similar to these: severity xx normal reassign xx ftp.debian.org retitle xx RM: flowcanvas -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, superseded by ganv severity yy normal reassign yy ftp.debian.org retitle yy RM: ladish -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, appears unmaintained upstream (replacing RoQA with RoM if you are a maintainer of the appropriate package). Thanks, smcv Hope that helps. Olivier
Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
hi all, flowcanvas should definitely removed, and ganv adopted, since it is being used in newer tools such as Cadence (see https://github.com/falkTX/Cadence) ideally, ladish should be switched from using flowcanvas to using ganv. I started looking at that, but there is quite a few API changes between flowcanvas and ganv, so it is a bit more than a trivial search and replace. Maybe drobilla or falktx (CCed) would want to help here? cheers, piem On 01/28/2018 03:12 PM, treb...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit : >> Source: flowcanvas >> Severity: important >> User: debian...@lists.debian.org >> Usertags: proposed-removal >> Control: clone -1 -2 >> Control: reassign -2 ladish >> Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed? >> >> flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries >> (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its >> upstream >> website says: >> >> **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv! >> >> ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears >> to have commit activity upstream. >> >> flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish), >> whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says >> the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014. > > ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) here : > https://github.com/alessio/ladish/ > (the same goes laditools as well) > > > >> These packages both seem like candidates for removal from unstable. > > It would be a big regression from a user point of view since it'll remove > the "studio" (reopen everything in one-click) from Debian with no > alternative. > > > >> If you agree, please reassign this bug to the ftp team with >> cont...@bugs.debian.org commands similar to these: >> >> severity xx normal >> reassign xx ftp.debian.org >> retitle xx RM: flowcanvas -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, >> superseded by ganv >> >> severity yy normal >> reassign yy ftp.debian.org >> retitle yy RM: ladish -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, >> appears unmaintained upstream >> >> (replacing RoQA with RoM if you are a maintainer of the appropriate >> package). >> >> Thanks, >> smcv > > Hope that helps. > Olivier > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit : Source: flowcanvas Severity: important User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: proposed-removal Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 ladish Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed? flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its upstream website says: **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv! ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears to have commit activity upstream. flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish), whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014. ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) here : https://github.com/alessio/ladish/ (the same goes laditools as well) These packages both seem like candidates for removal from unstable. It would be a big regression from a user point of view since it'll remove the "studio" (reopen everything in one-click) from Debian with no alternative. If you agree, please reassign this bug to the ftp team with cont...@bugs.debian.org commands similar to these: severity xx normal reassign xx ftp.debian.org retitle xx RM: flowcanvas -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, superseded by ganv severity yy normal reassign yy ftp.debian.org retitle yy RM: ladish -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, appears unmaintained upstream (replacing RoQA with RoM if you are a maintainer of the appropriate package). Thanks, smcv Hope that helps. Olivier
Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)
Source: flowcanvas Severity: important User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: proposed-removal Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 ladish Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed? flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its upstream website says: **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv! ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears to have commit activity upstream. flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish), whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014. These packages both seem like candidates for removal from unstable. If you agree, please reassign this bug to the ftp team with cont...@bugs.debian.org commands similar to these: severity xx normal reassign xx ftp.debian.org retitle xx RM: flowcanvas -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, superseded by ganv severity yy normal reassign yy ftp.debian.org retitle yy RM: ladish -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries, appears unmaintained upstream (replacing RoQA with RoM if you are a maintainer of the appropriate package). Thanks, smcv
