Bug#893658: [pkg-cinnamon] Bug#893658: cinnamon: recommend smart-notifier

2018-03-28 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2018-03-28 at 19:25 +0200, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
> I added gnome-disk-utility half year ago (in git) mainly for do
> operation on disk, see informations about ecc...
> About notification of disk failures I'll do some tests with broken
> hard disk to see how smart-notifier works but probably not in few
> days, if it works very well and without problems too I also think it
> could be very useful and I will ask maxy if possible to add it.

Thanks :)

The nice thing of smartd+some-notifyer over g-d-u would be that it's
probably much more flexible than the (presumably in the end
libatasmart-based) gnome-disk-utility.

Also, for smartmontools I'd know that it's pretty much kept up to date
with current disk models and quirks for them... not idea whether or not
libatasmart is as properly maintained as well.


Cheers,
Chris.



Bug#893658: [pkg-cinnamon] Bug#893658: cinnamon: recommend smart-notifier

2018-03-28 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 28/03/2018 17:51, Christoph Anton Mitterer ha scritto:
> Hi.
>
> I've just noted that gnome-disk-utility, which cinnamon now recommends
> somewhere, claims (in it's README):
>> gsd-disk-utility-notify:
>> gnome-disk-utility notification plugin for GNOME Settings Daemon
>> Disk health failure notification (SMART status)
> Not sure if it really does that,... and I'd say smartd is way more
> powerful + handling low-level block device stuff is not really an areay
> where I'd consider GNOME to be highly qualified...
>
> Nevertheless,... you may consider it as a fix for this bug.
> smartmontools anyway suggest smart-notifier so everyone should be
> happy.
>
>
> However, I personally would feel better if the gsd-disk-utility package
> could be split up so that there's a package which does only the SMART
> notifying... it seems a bit scary, that the gnome-disks utility shows a
> GUI which seemingly allows to format partitions, edit fstab options and
> the like.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Chris.
>
I added gnome-disk-utility half year ago (in git) mainly for do
operation on disk, see informations about ecc...

About notification of disk failures I'll do some tests with broken hard
disk to see how smart-notifier works but probably not in few days, if it
works very well and without problems too I also think it could be very
useful and I will ask maxy if possible to add it.




Bug#893658: [pkg-cinnamon] Bug#893658: cinnamon: recommend smart-notifier

2018-03-28 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi.

I've just noted that gnome-disk-utility, which cinnamon now recommends
somewhere, claims (in it's README):
>gsd-disk-utility-notify:
>gnome-disk-utility notification plugin for GNOME Settings Daemon
>Disk health failure notification (SMART status)

Not sure if it really does that,... and I'd say smartd is way more
powerful + handling low-level block device stuff is not really an areay
where I'd consider GNOME to be highly qualified...

Nevertheless,... you may consider it as a fix for this bug.
smartmontools anyway suggest smart-notifier so everyone should be
happy.


However, I personally would feel better if the gsd-disk-utility package
could be split up so that there's a package which does only the SMART
notifying... it seems a bit scary, that the gnome-disks utility shows a
GUI which seemingly allows to format partitions, edit fstab options and
the like.


Cheers,
Chris.



Bug#893658: [pkg-cinnamon] Bug#893658: cinnamon: recommend smart-notifier

2018-03-21 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey.

On Wed, 2018-03-21 at 16:10 +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
> smart-notifier has latest build of 6 years ago, if not maintained
> anymore there is more risk of issue or for example in the case will
> not
> migrate to python3 before timelimit and will be removed.
> In that case don't seems a good idea add it to recommends (if not
> really
> needed), or I'm wrong?

Mhh, I wasn't aware that it's unmaintained... :-(
OTOH, the code seems really pretty simple and there is a python3-dbus,
so I'd guess porting it would be not too difficult.

Given it's simplicity, I'd also say that any serious issues are rather
unlikely.


So right now I'd still say, recommend it (otherwise people may only
notice their smart errors if it's too late).
Even *if* it would be dropped from Debian, it would simply be
removed... so no real issue as well (apart from having no SMART error
notification anymore).


I've submitted:
https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/7383
asking for some "integrated" SMART notification... but whether this
will be implemented (and when) is completely open, so I'd still say it
makes sense to recommend the existing solution until something better
is there.


Anyway,.. just an idea :-)


Cheers,
Chris-



Bug#893658: [pkg-cinnamon] Bug#893658: cinnamon: recommend smart-notifier

2018-03-21 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 20/03/2018 23:46, Christoph Anton Mitterer ha scritto:
> Package: cinnamon
> Version: 3.4.6-1
> Severity: wishlist
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I couldn't find information on whether cinnamon itself queries
> smartd (if installed) and displays warnings about SMART errors
> in the GUI (where users will likely see them, unlike as in the
> syslog).
>
> In case cinnmon itself doesn't do that (which I guess is the
> case), could you please recommend the smart-notifier package?
> Not sure in which cinnamon meta package, cinnamon, cinnamon-core
> cinnamon-desktop-enviroment... but likely one of the more
> low-level ones :)
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
smart-notifier has latest build of 6 years ago, if not maintained
anymore there is more risk of issue or for example in the case will not
migrate to python3 before timelimit and will be removed.
In that case don't seems a good idea add it to recommends (if not really
needed), or I'm wrong?



Bug#893658: cinnamon: recommend smart-notifier

2018-03-20 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Package: cinnamon
Version: 3.4.6-1
Severity: wishlist


Hi.

I couldn't find information on whether cinnamon itself queries
smartd (if installed) and displays warnings about SMART errors
in the GUI (where users will likely see them, unlike as in the
syslog).

In case cinnmon itself doesn't do that (which I guess is the
case), could you please recommend the smart-notifier package?
Not sure in which cinnamon meta package, cinnamon, cinnamon-core
cinnamon-desktop-enviroment... but likely one of the more
low-level ones :)

Thanks,
Chris