Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
Il 09/10/2018 01:16, Michael Biebl ha scritto: > This is now waiting for an ack by the release team, see #910629 Good, very big thanks.
Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
Hi Fabio On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:32:10 +0200 Fabio Fantoni wrote: > Package: network-manager-applet > Version: 1.4.4-1 > Severity: important > Tags: stretch > > Trying to use libnma over GI from a python script is not working at all and > can also cause crash of other software using it. > This patch solved it: > https://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/commit/?id=7a59d41e5fd0da51f1f7aae7518befdb1182 > I reported this because is a important bug using libnma and can be fixed with > a small patch, in case there was any possibility of a new build > (1.4.4-1+deb9u1). > Thanks for any reply and sorry for my bad english. This is now waiting for an ack by the release team, see #910629 Thanks for the patch at [1] even if I ended up not using it directly. You really need to patch Makefile.am, not Makefile.in (as we run autoreconf during build) Regards, Michael [1] https://salsa.debian.org/fantu-guest/network-manager-applet/commit/fd9033131b6e82e97d64cce9a640043e7742b167 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#896818: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
On 06/26/2018 10:10 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:07:25 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: >> Thanks for the bug report. >> Seems we don't have any package in stretch yet, which uses >> gir1.2-nma-1.0, which is probably why this issue has went unnoticed. >> >> But that also means, it's probably not that important to fix this via a >> stable upload. Or put this differently: Why do you want to have this >> fixed in stretch, is there any software you use in stretch that requires >> gir1.2-nma-1.0? > One possibly good reason to get this fixed is because, Cinnamon will not > merge this PR until you do: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/7486 > > And this PR makes Cinnamon work better and support new features, like > https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/7118 > > Since the current state of things is that the bindings are badly broken, > and this does nothing other than to make things work the way they were > always meant to, I think it is reasonable to backport this pretty minor fix. > > > End result: peoples' custom scripts no longer crash and burn. > > Also, downstream developers of software that is in fact in stretch, do > not need to burden themselves by refusing to improve their software on > the grounds that it will crash and burn on stretch. This affects both > people who build their own packages for testing, and people who develop > a respin of stretch, which is supposed to showcase their software. > > Like Linux Mint Debian Edition, which is based on stretch, but includes > the latest Cinnamon packages. > > Also, if downstream developers are afraid to use non-deprecated > libraries like libnma because it will break on Debian, it means other > distros which use more recent networkmanager versions cannot benefit > from fixes and improvements, which in its own small way drags down the > entire Linux ecosystem. As an Arch Linux user (and maintainer of the > Cinnamon desktop on Arch) I'd like to see Cinnamon be improved... > > It's such a simple fix... > > Please note also that the commit has been backported to > network-manager-applet's *maintenance* 1.4 branch, and is available in > 1.4.8 (released 3 weeks ago on 01 Jun 2018). > > Upstream-sanctioned maintenance releases which fix bugs resulting in > completely broken package components, are good candidates for inclusion. :) You yourself requested that the cinnamon maintainers apply downstream patches to cinnamon in order to stop using libnm-glib, cf. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=857231 I'm really trying not to feel like this vindicates my extreme pessimism about Debian as a distribution, but when you pull stunts like this it's difficult. On the one hand you keep filing bugs against any packages which dare to code against libnm-glib/libnm-gtk. On the other hand, you refuse to fix the things you want developers to migrate *to*, on the grounds that they're not yet using it! If you would just *fix a completely broken component of networkmanager*, then progress in that upstream PR would move forward, and hopefully be merged into the next cinnamon release. You could then drop those patches from the cinnamon package. This would help move Debian away from being a janky distribution that obsessively patches everything to death. :( -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
Bug#896818: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:07:25 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: > Thanks for the bug report. > Seems we don't have any package in stretch yet, which uses > gir1.2-nma-1.0, which is probably why this issue has went unnoticed. > > But that also means, it's probably not that important to fix this via a > stable upload. Or put this differently: Why do you want to have this > fixed in stretch, is there any software you use in stretch that requires > gir1.2-nma-1.0? One possibly good reason to get this fixed is because, Cinnamon will not merge this PR until you do: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/7486 And this PR makes Cinnamon work better and support new features, like https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/7118 Since the current state of things is that the bindings are badly broken, and this does nothing other than to make things work the way they were always meant to, I think it is reasonable to backport this pretty minor fix. End result: peoples' custom scripts no longer crash and burn. Also, downstream developers of software that is in fact in stretch, do not need to burden themselves by refusing to improve their software on the grounds that it will crash and burn on stretch. This affects both people who build their own packages for testing, and people who develop a respin of stretch, which is supposed to showcase their software. Like Linux Mint Debian Edition, which is based on stretch, but includes the latest Cinnamon packages. Also, if downstream developers are afraid to use non-deprecated libraries like libnma because it will break on Debian, it means other distros which use more recent networkmanager versions cannot benefit from fixes and improvements, which in its own small way drags down the entire Linux ecosystem. As an Arch Linux user (and maintainer of the Cinnamon desktop on Arch) I'd like to see Cinnamon be improved... It's such a simple fix... Please note also that the commit has been backported to network-manager-applet's *maintenance* 1.4 branch, and is available in 1.4.8 (released 3 weeks ago on 01 Jun 2018). Upstream-sanctioned maintenance releases which fix bugs resulting in completely broken package components, are good candidates for inclusion. :) -- Eli Schwartz Arch Linux Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
control: tags -1 + patch I prepared the patch if you will want make it usable: https://salsa.debian.org/fantu-guest/network-manager-applet/commit/fd9033131b6e82e97d64cce9a640043e7742b167
Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
Il 24/04/2018 23:07, Michael Biebl ha scritto: > > Thanks for the bug report. > Seems we don't have any package in stretch yet, which uses > gir1.2-nma-1.0, which is probably why this issue has went unnoticed. > > But that also means, it's probably not that important to fix this via a > stable upload. Or put this differently: Why do you want to have this > fixed in stretch, is there any software you use in stretch that requires > gir1.2-nma-1.0? > > Regards, > Michael > > Thanks for reply, probably I not able to explain good in english, latest Clem comment here probably can: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/7486 In this explain how to reproduce: https://gist.github.com/clefebvre/411ab17558fc4dc438085ce2b6cc9093 But also description of patch from upstream that fixed it I think explain good: > libnma/pygobject: libnma/NMA must use libnm/NM instead of legacy libraries > libnma uses libnm, and not libnm-util/libnm-glib. Hence, the python > bindings must load "NM" and not "NMClient"/"NetworkManager". > *As it was, the generated bindings for libnma were unusable and > loading them would fail with* > libnm-ERROR **: libnm-util symbols detected; Mixing libnm with > libnm-util/libnm-glib is not supported I personally think that only the fact the libnma binding is broken and anyone want use it in Stretch can have this issue is sufficient reason for fix it.
Bug#896818: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
Am 24.04.2018 um 16:32 schrieb Fabio Fantoni: > Package: network-manager-applet > Version: 1.4.4-1 > Severity: important > Tags: stretch > > Trying to use libnma over GI from a python script is not working at all and > can also cause crash of other software using it. > This patch solved it: > https://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/commit/?id=7a59d41e5fd0da51f1f7aae7518befdb1182 > I reported this because is a important bug using libnma and can be fixed with > a small patch, in case there was any possibility of a new build > (1.4.4-1+deb9u1). Thanks for the bug report. Seems we don't have any package in stretch yet, which uses gir1.2-nma-1.0, which is probably why this issue has went unnoticed. But that also means, it's probably not that important to fix this via a stable upload. Or put this differently: Why do you want to have this fixed in stretch, is there any software you use in stretch that requires gir1.2-nma-1.0? Regards, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#896818: libnma over GI not working
Package: network-manager-applet Version: 1.4.4-1 Severity: important Tags: stretch Trying to use libnma over GI from a python script is not working at all and can also cause crash of other software using it. This patch solved it: https://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/commit/?id=7a59d41e5fd0da51f1f7aae7518befdb1182 I reported this because is a important bug using libnma and can be fixed with a small patch, in case there was any possibility of a new build (1.4.4-1+deb9u1). Thanks for any reply and sorry for my bad english.
