Bug#911430: Processed: O: spice-vdagent -- spice agent for linux

2022-05-30 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 10:55:08PM +0530, Abhijith PA wrote:
> On 30/05/22 06:00 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 03:55:48PM +0530, Abhijith PA wrote:
> > > I own this package. Last upload was done by Jeremy Bicha as their 
> > > Ubuntu release was due that even without notifying me prior. Now I can 
> > > see there is also another QA upload.
> > 
> > An ITA really doesn't lock a package forever.  You have been claiming
> > this ITA since 1½ years (January 2022), but you only done one upload to
> > stretch-security (which was under a NMU according to the changelog).
> 
> I could argue atleast some activity was happening in repo.
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/spice-vdagent/-/commits/master

Right, which is exactly what was uploaded?
We have a problem within Debian in general of many maintainers piling up
changes in git but never uploading it; in some teams (like the Perl
team, where uploads pretty much only happen when there is a new upstream
release) is quite worse than others..

> > All that said as a preamble, I reopened the bug because this package came
> > up in a list of packages with inconsistent metadata ("orphaned without
> > associated O bug"), that's how I found it this morning.
> 
> In evening I saw a closed bug reopened and re-titled to Orphan. So I 
> gave my explanation.

Right.  If you plan to keep working on adopting it, by all means please
do retitle it to ITA as see fit.  Just that until you actually
"complete" the adoption people might come around and "touch" it every so
often.

My assumption when I saw it closed after 1+ year of silence was that you
weren't interested in it anymore... :)

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Bug#911430: Processed: O: spice-vdagent -- spice agent for linux

2022-05-30 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 03:55:48PM +0530, Abhijith PA wrote:
> I own this package. Last upload was done by Jeremy Bicha as their 
> Ubuntu release was due that even without notifying me prior. Now I can 
> see there is also another QA upload.

An ITA really doesn't lock a package forever.  You have been claiming
this ITA since 1½ years (January 2022), but you only done one upload to
stretch-security (which was under a NMU according to the changelog).

Then you closed this ITA/O with a version that doesn't actually change
Maintainer but only does another QA upload (the one fro jbicha that you
mention): such upload really doesn't conclude the adoption process, but
in fact leaves it in an inconsistent state, so I really don't understand
why would even do that.


Effectively as long as you don't upload this package to unstable with a
changed Maintainer field you really don't "own" anything.  ITAs are
supposed to be used for coordinating and preventing two people to adopt
the same package, but I really don't think it's fair to say you "own"
the package for years without ever uploading it just because of the
metadata of a bug and with that preventing a QA upload.
https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#howto-o


All that said as a preamble, I reopened the bug because this package came
up in a list of packages with inconsistent metadata ("orphaned without
associated O bug"), that's how I found it this morning.


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Mattia Rizzolo

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