Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2019-03-03 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2019, മാർച്ച് 3 10:45:19 PM IST, Justin Hallett wrote: >Well I hope it comes to that personally, cause I think you have been >doing a great job, it’s a TON of work to maintain all the depends you >do for gitlab and honestly there are rarely issues and when they are >you fix them very

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2019-03-03 Thread Justin Hallett
Well I hope it comes to that personally, cause I think you have been doing a great job, it’s a TON of work to maintain all the depends you do for gitlab and honestly there are rarely issues and when they are you fix them very quickly after a report. It’s very upsetting that I now have 10

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2019-03-03 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 07:45:36 -0700 Justin Hallett wrote: > This ticket is bogus and should be closed and removed so that gitlab can be > fixed in testing and restore the faith of its users. I think we have not received the same level of respect from the rest of the project. Since everyone is

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2019-03-03 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 07:45:36 -0700 Justin Hallett wrote: > By keeping this out of testing you are really leaving those of us running it > and depending on it in a real mess. To get rails 2.5 support I had to do > some serious Debian badness, this really sucks, couldn’t it just be kept out >

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2019-02-25 Thread Justin Hallett
By keeping this out of testing you are really leaving those of us running it and depending on it in a real mess. To get rails 2.5 support I had to do some serious Debian badness, this really sucks, couldn’t it just be kept out of backports if that is the issue instead of causing harm to those

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2019-02-13 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 00:55:39 +0100 Dominik George wrote: > >> We had volatile, which, redefined properly, could help. I am trying > >to draft such a definition. > > > >Did you get a chance to work on it? > > I do have this on my todo list for around Christmas. > > People who know me that I

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Dominik George
>> We had volatile, which, redefined properly, could help. I am trying >to draft such a definition. > >Did you get a chance to work on it? I do have this on my todo list for around Christmas. People who know me that I deliberately leave out the year, but my intentions are 2018 ;). -nik

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 9:17:51 AM AEDT Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Did you mean: in an unstable-like “volatile” repo? Yes perhaps more like "unstable". I'm saying that IMHO we should have only one common/shared "PPA" for "stable" users. I do not want many personal/individual archives. >

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > trust - a something we can only have in backports-like "volatile" repo. Did you mean: in an unstable-like “volatile” repo? Backports have a defined mission, which has nothing to do with the “volatile” proposal. What you were referring to,

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 2:11:43 AM AEDT Holger Levsen wrote: > instead of volatile we need PPAs. I think concept of "volatile" is better, stronger. PPA allows people to ship whatever they want without cooperating in policy compliant (official) repo. This is the Debian way where many

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 12/18/18 8:41 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. > > instead of volatile we need PPAs. I think a redefined volatile is the best option for sharing work. But

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:12 AM Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. > > instead of volatile we need PPAs. Shortly before the Stretch release, when I was scrambling to

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 08:38:39PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > But if that is not possible, volatile as a separate archive is also fine. instead of volatile we need PPAs. -- cheers, Holger ---

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2018, ഡിസംബർ 18 7:14:14 PM IST, Rhonda D'Vine wrote: > And yes, I'm with Alexander, the volatile maintenance can't be dumped >on the backports team. It's a different workflow anyway. My proposal for backports is to have only the dependencies of packages in volatile that fall in the

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Rhonda D'Vine
Hey, * Pirate Praveen [2018-12-18 09:34:46 CET]: > On 12/3/18 8:11 PM, Dominik George wrote: > >> well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The > >> problem here > >> is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's > >> not > >> easy/possible to

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Pirate Praveen wrote: > [adding -devel to cc] > > On 12/3/18 8:11 PM, Dominik George wrote: > >> well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The > >> problem here > >> is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's > >> not > >>

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
[adding -devel to cc] On 12/3/18 8:11 PM, Dominik George wrote: >> well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The >> problem here >> is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's >> not >> easy/possible to fit the definition. So, maybe we should create

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-03 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2018, ഡിസംബർ 3 8:11:58 PM IST, Dominik George wrote: >We had volatile, which, redefined properly, could help. I am trying to >draft such a definition. Thanks, that is required to keep gitlab in a supportable form (unstable directly is not the best option). I think an Ubuntu PPA like

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-03 Thread Dominik George
>well, Debian is using gitlab!!! so this sentence has no sense. The >problem here >is that is a complex software that depends of a lot of pieces and it's >not >easy/possible to fit the definition. So, maybe we should create another >category >of software. Yes, and that Debian officially uses

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-03 Thread Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
El 30/11/18 a les 15:16, Thorsten Glaser ha escrit: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> That is indeed the current definition. The question is about the >> possibility of changing that definition or finding other ways to maybe creating another kind of repo. debian-contributuions

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-12-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 06:01:26PM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 16:43, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 07:39:20PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > >Backports are *always* from testing because a backport is > > >supposed to be replaced

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Jakob Haufe
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 18:01:26 +0200 Jan Groenewald wrote: > There is https://packages.gitlab.com/gitlab/gitlab-ce > > (deb https://packages.gitlab.com/gitlab/gitlab-ce/debian/ stretch main) Sorry, but no. Just no, no, no and no. Those binary dumps are horrible. They are essentially just

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 16:43, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 07:39:20PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > >Backports are *always* from testing because a backport is > > >supposed to be replaced by the regular stable version of > > >the subsequent release. > > That is indeed

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 07:39:20PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >Backports are *always* from testing because a backport is > >supposed to be replaced by the regular stable version of > >the subsequent release. > That is indeed the current definition. Me too is very happy with it. > Another

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Pirate Praveen wrote: > That is indeed the current definition. The question is about the > possibility of changing that definition or finding other ways to No. It’s there for good reasons, including stability. > accommodate fast changing software like gitlab. Broadening the

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2018, നവംബർ 30 5:14:20 PM IST, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> How about allowing gitlab to be backported directly from unstable? > >No. > >Backports are *always* from testing because a backport is >supposed to be replaced by the regular stable

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Pirate Praveen wrote: > How about allowing gitlab to be backported directly from unstable? No. Backports are *always* from testing because a backport is supposed to be replaced by the regular stable version of the subsequent release. Hence, only from testing, in the hope

Bug#915050: (gitlab) Re: Bug#915050: Keep out of testing

2018-11-30 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2018, നവംബർ 30 1:29:59 AM IST, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >Source: gitlab >Severity: serious > >Gitlab is too fast-moving with weekly releases and backporting security >fixes has already >failed us for stretch, keep it out of testing. > >To meaningfully support it for use on stable, this