Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-14 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:55:39AM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 02:05:52PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > For the time being, yes, and for the reasons outlined in the initial bug
> > report.
> 
> Those were my (hopefully impartial) summary.
> 
> I also went on to comment on each of the items in detail and explain why they
> were not of sufficient concern to warrant a block. Are there still outstanding
> concerns?

I think your summary is fine. However, this is not my area of expertise and
I'm rather hoping Julien or Ansgar will chime in with an update.

It certainly wouldn't be appropriate for me to remove a block put in place
by someone else without extenuating circumstances.

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Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-14 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 07:22:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:55:39AM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 02:05:52PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > > For the time being, yes, and for the reasons outlined in the initial bug
> > > report.
> > 
> > Those were my (hopefully impartial) summary.
> > 
> > I also went on to comment on each of the items in detail and explain why 
> > they
> > were not of sufficient concern to warrant a block. Are there still 
> > outstanding
> > concerns?
> 
> I think your summary is fine. However, this is not my area of expertise and
> I'm rather hoping Julien or Ansgar will chime in with an update.
> 
> It certainly wouldn't be appropriate for me to remove a block put in place
> by someone else without extenuating circumstances.

I quite understand that. Thanks.

I too hope that Julien will engage with this as he placed the manual block.

Thanks.

Mark



Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-10 Thread Mark Hindley
Jonathan,

Thank you for engaging with this.

On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 02:05:52PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> For the time being, yes, and for the reasons outlined in the initial bug
> report.

Those were my (hopefully impartial) summary.

I also went on to comment on each of the items in detail and explain why they
were not of sufficient concern to warrant a block. Are there still outstanding
concerns?

Thanks.

Mark



Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-09 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 01:13:58PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 12:06 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 11:41 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > > > Control: severity -1 normal
> > > > 
> > > > On 2019-08-09 11:33, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > > > > Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > severity 934132 important
> > > > > Bug #934132 [release.debian.org] unblock: elogind/241.3-
> > > > > 1+debian1
> > > > > Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'
> > > > 
> > > > No. release.d.o bugs are normal at most unless the team decide 
> > > > otherwise. Please leave them like that.
> > > 
> > > Might be so. But explain why this package is still blocked, buster
> > > was
> > > released several weeks ago!
> > 
> > Because it's nothing to do with buster. We're working on bullseye
> > now.
> 
> So elogind has been excluded from the bullseye release? Maybe you can
> explain that decision.

For the time being, yes, and for the reasons outlined in the initial bug
report.

You seem very intent on believing that this is a permanent state. In fact
there are probably nearly two years in which the problems outlined in this
bug can be resolved. If they are, I see no reason why elogind couldn't be
in bullseye in the fullness of time.

Please take a little time to study the background before you make alarmist
conclusions like this.

Thanks,

-- 
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Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-09 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 12:06 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 11:41 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > > Control: severity -1 normal
> > > 
> > > On 2019-08-09 11:33, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > > > Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> > > > 
> > > > > severity 934132 important
> > > > Bug #934132 [release.debian.org] unblock: elogind/241.3-
> > > > 1+debian1
> > > > Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'
> > > 
> > > No. release.d.o bugs are normal at most unless the team decide 
> > > otherwise. Please leave them like that.
> > 
> > Might be so. But explain why this package is still blocked, buster
> > was
> > released several weeks ago!
> 
> Because it's nothing to do with buster. We're working on bullseye
> now.

So elogind has been excluded from the bullseye release? Maybe you can
explain that decision.



Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-09 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 11:41 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > Control: severity -1 normal
> > 
> > On 2019-08-09 11:33, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > > Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> > > 
> > > > severity 934132 important
> > > Bug #934132 [release.debian.org] unblock: elogind/241.3-1+debian1
> > > Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'
> > 
> > No. release.d.o bugs are normal at most unless the team decide 
> > otherwise. Please leave them like that.
> 
> Might be so. But explain why this package is still blocked, buster was
> released several weeks ago!

Because it's nothing to do with buster. We're working on bullseye now.

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Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-09 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 2019-08-09 11:55, Svante Signell wrote:

On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 11:41 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

Control: severity -1 normal

On 2019-08-09 11:33, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
>
> > severity 934132 important
> Bug #934132 [release.debian.org] unblock: elogind/241.3-1+debian1
> Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'

No. release.d.o bugs are normal at most unless the team decide
otherwise. Please leave them like that.


Might be so. But explain why this package is still blocked, buster was
released several weeks ago!


I didn't add the blocking hint, but it was added after the release, so 
I'm not sure what your point there is.


(Nor am I likely to remove someone else's hint, so attempting to 
persuade me of the merits either way is unlikely to be a good use of 
either of our time.)


Regards,

Adam



Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-09 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 11:41 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> Control: severity -1 normal
> 
> On 2019-08-09 11:33, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> > 
> > > severity 934132 important
> > Bug #934132 [release.debian.org] unblock: elogind/241.3-1+debian1
> > Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'
> 
> No. release.d.o bugs are normal at most unless the team decide 
> otherwise. Please leave them like that.

Might be so. But explain why this package is still blocked, buster was
released several weeks ago!



Bug#934132: Processed: #934132: Raise severity to important

2019-08-09 Thread Adam D. Barratt

Control: severity -1 normal

On 2019-08-09 11:33, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:

Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:


severity 934132 important

Bug #934132 [release.debian.org] unblock: elogind/241.3-1+debian1
Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'


No. release.d.o bugs are normal at most unless the team decide 
otherwise. Please leave them like that.


Regards,

Adam