Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-05 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Experimental and lowering to pedantic are orthogonal flags. I think both should be done, as removing --as-needed has very marginal relevance so it can't possibly be labeled as "warning". But due to what Christian said (which matches my thoughts) I likewise believe the tag should be hidden for the

Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-05 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2020-05-05 13:58, Chris Lamb wrote: > I would like to do a Lintian release today, so given that a) I was led > to believe skipping the tag for backports uploads would be sufficient > and b) that I would not like to leave the resolution of this bug for > another release, I would like to make the

Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-05 Thread Chris Lamb
Hey Mattia, > […] You make a number of fair points and many of them have changed the colour how I feel about this. For example, you are right to highlight that if a tag exists even for a day then it can have remarkable impact. I would still insist that it is regrettable that users hesitate before

Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-04 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 10:58:03PM -, Chris Lamb wrote: > It was sad to read that you do not consider that Lintian itself could > be updated to prevent all of these wasted brain cycles on a question > that you have seen raised multiple times. I consider that, and I think I tried to contribute

Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-04 Thread Chris Lamb
Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > IMHO, this is typical example of a tag that shouldn't have existed until > bullseye was stable. […] > Instead, I can see how many man-minutes and precious brain cycles were > lost in bugs like this, since you are not the first person to raise this > question. It was sad to

Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-04 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
[ not a lintian maintainer ] On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 09:53:45AM +0200, Christian Kastner wrote: > lintian understandably reports about a no longer required > -Wl,--as-needed in bullseye. However, unless I'm mistaken, it's still > needed for building for buster-backports, so removing it has a side

Bug#959696: debian-rules-uses-as-needed-linker-flag and backports

2020-05-04 Thread Christian Kastner
Package: lintian Version: 2.70.0 Severity: wishlist lintian understandably reports about a no longer required -Wl,--as-needed in bullseye. However, unless I'm mistaken, it's still needed for building for buster-backports, so removing it has a side effect. The cleanest solution would probably be t