Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-10 Thread Holger Wansing
Control: tags -1 + pending Justin B Rye wrote (Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:50:30 +0100): > > + > > + Customization > > + > > + Using the shell (see ), the installation process > > + can be carefully customized, to fit exceptional use cases: > > + > > + > > + Installing an alternative init system

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-10 Thread Justin B Rye
Holger Wansing wrote: > Trying to integrate your suggestions, would then have Thanks for making sense of it... > + > + Customization > + > + Using the shell (see ), the installation process > + can be carefully customized, to fit exceptional use cases: > + > + > + Installing an

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-09 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Justin B Rye wrote (Thu, 9 Sep 2021 21:52:44 +0100): > > So, I tend to go with a 6.5 section like > > > >+ > >+ Customization > >+ > >+ The installation process can be further customized to fit your needs: > >+ > > > > What do you think? > > It might work. Then it

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-09 Thread Justin B Rye
Justin B Rye wrote: > Hmm. That may have been boiled down *too* far, since there's no > hint that it works by going to a shell. So maybe that should have > been in the intro? (Sorry, can't remember the ulink syntax) > > As well as troubleshooting, the [[6.3.9.2|link]] also allows Oops -

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-09 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Justin B Rye wrote (Thu, 9 Sep 2021 07:21:24 +0100): > Holger Wansing wrote: > >> @Justin? > > > > Hmm, debian-l10n-english has vanished from the loop somehow. > > Therefore, I fear you lost track of this thread in the meantime ... > > Thanks for spotting that. > > > Maybe you could try

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-09 Thread Justin B Rye
Holger Wansing wrote: >> The more I look at the way the sections are organised the more I think >> that the real problem is that "6.3.9 Troubleshooting" is already a >> misfit. There needs to be some clearer mention in 6.1 of the fact >> that jumping to VT2 lets you issue commands behind d-i's

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-09-09 Thread Justin B Rye
Holger Wansing wrote: >> @Justin? > > Hmm, debian-l10n-english has vanished from the loop somehow. > Therefore, I fear you lost track of this thread in the meantime ... Thanks for spotting that. > Maybe you could try to catch up starting from >

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-29 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Am 28. August 2021 09:37:26 MESZ schrieb Philip Hands : >Holger Wansing writes: >> Moreover, when thinking about this implementation, I'm quite uncomfortable >> with >> adding such paragraph into the "Using individual components" section, since >> this >> "change-init-system part" is no

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-28 Thread Philip Hands
Holger Wansing writes: > Hi, > > Justin Rye wrote (Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:38:17 > +0100): >> Holger Wansing wrote: >> > I wonder if "the easiest time to select an alternative init system is >> > during the >> > installation process" is correct English. >> > >> > Maybe better "the best time ...

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-27 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Justin Rye wrote (Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:38:17 +0100): > Holger Wansing wrote: > > I wonder if "the easiest time to select an alternative init system is > > during the > > installation process" is correct English. > > > > Maybe better "the best time ... " ? > > > > Asking debian-l10n-english

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-27 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 26/08/2021 21:45, Holger Wansing wrote: Hi, Am 26. August 2021 09:24:58 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : Hi, Could someone merge https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/installation-guide/-/merge_requests/15 please? It's the smaller change that folk asked for :) I wonder if "the easiest

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-27 Thread Justin Rye
Holger Wansing wrote: > I wonder if "the easiest time to select an alternative init system is during > the > installation process" is correct English. > > Maybe better "the best time ... " ? > > Asking debian-l10n-english for advise. > > @debian-l10n-english: > Hi all, could someone please

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-26 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Am 26. August 2021 09:24:58 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : >Hi, > >Could someone merge >https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/installation-guide/-/merge_requests/15 >please? > >It's the smaller change that folk asked for :) I wonder if "the easiest time to select an alternative init

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:45:17 +0200 Holger Wansing wrote: > I wonder if "the easiest time to select an alternative init system is > during the installation process" is correct English. > > Maybe better "the best time ... " ? Much better, although both are literally true. From an native American

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-26 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Could someone merge https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/installation-guide/-/merge_requests/15 please? It's the smaller change that folk asked for :) Thanks, Matthew

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Am 9. August 2021 17:19:03 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : > >We are as a project meant to support use of alternative init systems; I >think that should include providing documentation to our users in the >appropriate place. And, as I said in response to Holger, it really is a >thing best

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 09/08/2021 20:01, Holger Wansing wrote: I tend to see it this way: The installation-guide documents the functionality of debian-installer. That change-init-system-during-install thing is not a function of d-i (means: there is no question asking the user what init system shall be used, or

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Am 9. August 2021 16:36:33 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : >Source: installation-guide >Severity: normal >Tags: patch > >Hi, > >I've drafted a note on how to switch init system during the >installation process; it's easiest to do it at this point rather than >post-install, because it's tricky

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 09/08/2021 16:35, Samuel Thibault wrote: Matthew Vernon, le lun. 09 août 2021 16:19:03 +0100, a ecrit: I don't think adding a subsection at the bottom of "Using Individual Components" is really burdening the casual systemd user! We wouldn't say that a subsection on serial braille displays

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matthew Vernon, le lun. 09 août 2021 16:19:03 +0100, a ecrit: > I don't think adding a subsection at the bottom of "Using Individual > Components" is really burdening the casual systemd user! We wouldn't say > that a subsection on serial braille displays should be left out because it's > a niche

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 09/08/2021 16:12, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Holger Wansing (2021-08-09): Am 9. August 2021 16:36:33 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : Source: installation-guide Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi, I've drafted a note on how to switch init system during the installation process; it's easiest to do

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 09/08/2021 15:57, Holger Wansing wrote: Am 9. August 2021 16:36:33 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : Source: installation-guide Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi, I've drafted a note on how to switch init system during the installation process; it's easiest to do it at this point rather than

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Wansing (2021-08-09): > Am 9. August 2021 16:36:33 MESZ schrieb Matthew Vernon : > >Source: installation-guide > >Severity: normal > >Tags: patch > > > >Hi, > > > >I've drafted a note on how to switch init system during the > >installation process; it's easiest to do it at this point

Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change init system during install

2021-08-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Source: installation-guide Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi, I've drafted a note on how to switch init system during the installation process; it's easiest to do it at this point rather than post-install, because it's tricky to remove the systemd package once systemd is running as pid 1. Could