Bug#319201: kiax in Debian (was Re: Problems rebuilding twinkle)
On Saturday 06 May 2006 21:44, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: We pretty much just need to remove the iLBC and update debian/copyright. For extra marks we could link to the system provided libspeex/ libgsm portaudio.. It seems that is already done: Version: 0.8.5-2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.0), libgsm1 (= 1.0.10), libportaudio0, libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6), libspeex1, libstdc++6 (= 4.1.0), libx11-6, libxext6 George Danchev was talking to upstream to get something along those lines in the next upstream release, but I haven't followed anything since. Well, George, how did that go? For what I see the new version still carries all the stuff we didn't want, including iLBC, so I suppose we should at least remove iLBC from our source package. Upstream said that they distributing the stuff in kiax's lib/ because these libraries are not stable enough (sort of true, but we have sonames to handle these out) in addition that we can live without lib/ anyway. I sent them a patch (ca. November 05) against 0.8.4 to clean the iLBC stuff up. You can have it at: svn co http://svn.openfmi.net/dev/people/danchev/kiax which was not incorporated in 0.8.5 - reasons unknown for the time being. I have tested it and we can remove the hole lib directory and the program still compiles, so I guess we could have a source package without this directory and that would make half of our problems go away, isn't it? What I don't know is what we'd loose by removing this directory, iLBC for sure, but that was a wanted effect anyway. But there were some dirs there like sox, portmixer, ... that we don't have as a shared lib, so... what where those for? lib/portaudio/LICENSE.txt and lib/portmixer/LICENSE.txt sound terribly non-free: * Any person wishing to distribute modifications to the Software is * requested to send the modifications to the original developer so that * they can be incorporated into the canonical version. Thus no anonymous modifications are allowed (a-la send me a postcard games ;-), so render these bits as DFSG-compliant. As for removing iLBC the source is not ready for that and still shows the iLBC button and it is enabled, so if you choose it and make a call you get in the console: ERROR: Codec not supported: 1024 ERROR: Codec could not be created: 1024 I'll have to investigate this more, but this poses problems when loading a config (iLBC should be changed to some other codec like gsm) and then in the preferences window where we should either make iLBC not appear or at least make it appear disabled. Thoughts on all this? My impression is that linking against libgsm we already have in Debian should be enough. I'm still not sure how to approach upstream that distributing (possibly) modified non-free code with their lib/ is pretty dangerous solution for them. P.S. upstream is CC'ed. -- pub 4096R/0E4BD0AB 2003-03-18 people.fccf.net/danchev/key pgp.mit.edu fingerprint 1AE7 7C66 0A26 5BFF DF22 5D55 1C57 0C89 0E4B D0AB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#319201: kiax in Debian (was Re: Problems rebuilding twinkle)
these out) in addition that we can live without lib/ anyway. I sent them a patch (ca. November 05) against 0.8.4 to clean the iLBC stuff up. You can have it at: svn co http://svn.openfmi.net/dev/people/danchev/kiax It doesn't seem to be working right now: svn co http://svn.openfmi.net/dev/people/danchev/kiax svn: REPORT request failed on '/dev/!svn/vcc/default' svn: REPORT of '/dev/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.openfmi.net) But I suppose your patch was more or less like mine (remove all ilbc stuff and reposition the checkboxes), isn't it? which was not incorporated in 0.8.5 - reasons unknown for the time being. Well, if my patches look ok then we can go with that and I can upload tonight if nobody complains. ok? lib/portaudio/LICENSE.txt and lib/portmixer/LICENSE.txt sound terribly non-free: :-) the removal saves us a lot of problems, but... we don't have portmixer in Debian, so... wasn't it used at all in kiax? if it was used... what was it used for that we'll be missing now? My impression is that linking against libgsm we already have in Debian should be enough. I'm still not sure how to approach upstream that distributing (possibly) modified non-free code with their lib/ is pretty dangerous solution for them. Well, upstream should be aware of the problems that all that nonfree stuff has and should probably drop all that from the tarball and instead recommend the version of those libs that is tested to work well with kiax with a link to download them from upstream. Regards... -- Manty/BestiaTester - http://manty.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#319201: kiax in Debian (was Re: Problems rebuilding twinkle)
We pretty much just need to remove the iLBC and update debian/copyright. For extra marks we could link to the system provided libspeex/ libgsm portaudio.. It seems that is already done: Version: 0.8.5-2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.0), libgsm1 (= 1.0.10), libportaudio0, libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6), libspeex1, libstdc++6 (= 4.1.0), libx11-6, libxext6 George Danchev was talking to upstream to get something along those lines in the next upstream release, but I haven't followed anything since. Well, George, how did that go? For what I see the new version still carries all the stuff we didn't want, including iLBC, so I suppose we should at least remove iLBC from our source package. I have tested it and we can remove the hole lib directory and the program still compiles, so I guess we could have a source package without this directory and that would make half of our problems go away, isn't it? What I don't know is what we'd loose by removing this directory, iLBC for sure, but that was a wanted effect anyway. But there were some dirs there like sox, portmixer, ... that we don't have as a shared lib, so... what where those for? As for removing iLBC the source is not ready for that and still shows the iLBC button and it is enabled, so if you choose it and make a call you get in the console: ERROR: Codec not supported: 1024 ERROR: Codec could not be created: 1024 I'll have to investigate this more, but this poses problems when loading a config (iLBC should be changed to some other codec like gsm) and then in the preferences window where we should either make iLBC not appear or at least make it appear disabled. Thoughts on all this? Welcome back :-) Thanks! I perfer the kiax UI over twinkle, but I prefer SIP over IAX2. Go for it, kiax is needed... :-) Twinkle is getting better, but the original UI is not good, so it is only being patched :-( But as I don't care about UI's that's not a problem for me, I like it better than kiax and I think it works better also. Regards... -- Manty/BestiaTester - http://manty.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
