Bug#344538: build problems on sarti

2006-01-09 Thread Frank Küster
Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ma, 2006-01-09 kello 10:10 +0100, Frank Küster kirjoitti:
>> 
>> Of course it does - one more reason to believe that the problem is on
>> the side of that particular machine: Hardware problems on sarti.
>
> I think that it's not likely a hardware problem as much as a possible
> misconfiguration of e.g. executable search paths. At least, Bdale's
> previous e-mail leads me to believe that this is where the investigation
> could start. 

I don't think so.  Last time, it failed while configuring tetex-bin, and
the binary pdfetex was called succesfully a couple of times but failed
once; omega and aleph were each called successfully once and failed the
second time - this rather points to a TeX input file being corrupted.
For a log, see 

http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=mysql-dfsg-5.0&ver=5.0.16-1&arch=hppa&stamp=1132626014&file=log&as=raw

(btw, why are old failed buildd logs not available from
http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=hppa&pkg=mysql-dfsg-5.0, I
wonder?)

> Another place to look would be to verify whether there is
> sufficient disk space to install and configure huge build-deps on Sarti.

Shouldn't this give much more failures?

Regards, Frank

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti

2006-01-09 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
ma, 2006-01-09 kello 10:10 +0100, Frank Küster kirjoitti:
> Thibaut VARENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 1/6/06, Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> pe, 2006-01-06 kello 11:51 -0500, Kyle McMartin kirjoitti:
> >
> >> Well, this is the second time that installation of tetex fails on hppa.
> >> According to the tetex maintainer, everything is kosher on his side, so
> >> this brings the question why installation of tetex repeatedly fails and
> >> only on hppa. Repeated occurrences of installation failure on a single
> >> architecture is a highly suspicious matter. Granted, Planner is not an
> >> essential package, but the situation is still bad omen.
> >
> > there is no such thing as a situation, as I see it:
> >
> > I built it just fine in a local sid chroot. 
> 
> Of course it does - one more reason to believe that the problem is on
> the side of that particular machine: Hardware problems on sarti.

I think that it's not likely a hardware problem as much as a possible
misconfiguration of e.g. executable search paths. At least, Bdale's
previous e-mail leads me to believe that this is where the investigation
could start. Another place to look would be to verify whether there is
sufficient disk space to install and configure huge build-deps on Sarti.

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti

2006-01-09 Thread Frank Küster
Thibaut VARENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 1/6/06, Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> pe, 2006-01-06 kello 11:51 -0500, Kyle McMartin kirjoitti:
>
>> Well, this is the second time that installation of tetex fails on hppa.
>> According to the tetex maintainer, everything is kosher on his side, so
>> this brings the question why installation of tetex repeatedly fails and
>> only on hppa. Repeated occurrences of installation failure on a single
>> architecture is a highly suspicious matter. Granted, Planner is not an
>> essential package, but the situation is still bad omen.
>
> there is no such thing as a situation, as I see it:
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39954 Jan  6 20:47 planner-dev_0.13-4_hppa.deb
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 801 Jan  6 20:47 planner_0.13-4_hppa.changes
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2167556 Jan  6 20:47 planner_0.13-4_hppa.deb
>
> I built it just fine in a local sid chroot. 

Of course it does - one more reason to believe that the problem is on
the side of that particular machine: Hardware problems on sarti.

> Just wait for buildd to
> tackle the build again, that's all. A couple of weeks delay for a low
> priority upload isn't a *situation*.

The *situation* is that this pops up every couple of weeks with random
packages.  Only on sarti.

Regards, Frank

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti

2006-01-09 Thread Frank Küster
Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, this is the second time that installation of tetex fails on hppa.
> According to the tetex maintainer, everything is kosher on his side, so
> this brings the question why installation of tetex repeatedly fails and
> only on hppa. Repeated occurrences of installation failure on a single
> architecture is a highly suspicious matter. Granted, Planner is not an
> essential package, but the situation is still bad omen.

mysql-dfsg-5.0 might be much more important and suffered from the same
problems. 

Regards, Frank
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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti

2006-01-06 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 02:40 +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> pe, 2006-01-06 kello 17:30 -0700, Bdale Garbee kirjoitti:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin-Éric Racine) writes:
> > 
> > >> To me it looks as if there were hardware problems.  
> > 
> > I don't see how you reach that conclusion?
> 
> Please read and quote carefully. 
> 
> That sentence was by Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in response to my
> bug report against tetex.  

You're right.  Sorry about that.  It can get confusing when there are so
many nested quotations.

Bdale



Bug#344538: build problems on sarti

2006-01-06 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
pe, 2006-01-06 kello 17:30 -0700, Bdale Garbee kirjoitti:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin-Éric Racine) writes:
> 
> >> To me it looks as if there were hardware problems.  
> 
> I don't see how you reach that conclusion?

Please read and quote carefully. 

That sentence was by Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in response to my
bug report against tetex.  

> >> /var/lib/dpkg/info/tetex-base.postinst: line 678: update-language: command 
> >> not found
> 
> Reading tetex-base.postinst, update-language is being called without an
> explicit path specification:
> 
>   # Update language.dat (update-language is in tex-common on which we depend)
>   update-language
> 
> Since this script gets put in /usr/sbin, if it's "not found" I presume it's
> because the file truly isn't present yet, /usr/sbin isn't in PATH, or the 
> execute bit in the permissions for that script isn't set.

That would not explain why hppa is the only architecture on which this
fails.  Either way, I have nothing to do with Tetex maintenance or with
sarti administration, so probably best discuss it with Frank.

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti (was: Bug#344538: tetex-base: tex-common to Pre-Depends, otherwise installation fails)

2006-01-06 Thread Thibaut VARENE
On 1/6/06, Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> pe, 2006-01-06 kello 11:51 -0500, Kyle McMartin kirjoitti:

> Well, this is the second time that installation of tetex fails on hppa.
> According to the tetex maintainer, everything is kosher on his side, so
> this brings the question why installation of tetex repeatedly fails and
> only on hppa. Repeated occurrences of installation failure on a single
> architecture is a highly suspicious matter. Granted, Planner is not an
> essential package, but the situation is still bad omen.

there is no such thing as a situation, as I see it:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39954 Jan  6 20:47 planner-dev_0.13-4_hppa.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 801 Jan  6 20:47 planner_0.13-4_hppa.changes
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2167556 Jan  6 20:47 planner_0.13-4_hppa.deb

I built it just fine in a local sid chroot. Just wait for buildd to
tackle the build again, that's all. A couple of weeks delay for a low
priority upload isn't a *situation*.

HTH

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti (was: Bug#344538: tetex-base: tex-common to Pre-Depends, otherwise installation fails)

2006-01-06 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
pe, 2006-01-06 kello 11:51 -0500, Kyle McMartin kirjoitti:
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 02:18:38PM +0200, Martin-?ric Racine wrote:
> > Anyhow, given how hppa is already among the architectures that did not
> > re-qualify for Etch, I propose that, from now on, hppa be ignored for
> > deciding whether a package is considered valid for going into Testing.
> 
> Uhm. You're wrong?
> 
> http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html

Ah. It seems I was.  My mistake.  Sorry!

> In any case, might as well ignore it. 

Well, this is the second time that installation of tetex fails on hppa.
According to the tetex maintainer, everything is kosher on his side, so
this brings the question why installation of tetex repeatedly fails and
only on hppa. Repeated occurrences of installation failure on a single
architecture is a highly suspicious matter. Granted, Planner is not an
essential package, but the situation is still bad omen.

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti (was: Bug#344538: tetex-base: tex-common to Pre-Depends, otherwise installation fails)

2006-01-06 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 02:18:38PM +0200, Martin-?ric Racine wrote:
> Anyhow, given how hppa is already among the architectures that did not
> re-qualify for Etch, I propose that, from now on, hppa be ignored for
> deciding whether a package is considered valid for going into Testing.
>

Uhm. You're wrong?

http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html

In any case, might as well ignore it. 


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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti (was: Bug#344538: tetex-base: tex-common to Pre-Depends, otherwise installation fails)

2006-01-06 Thread Thibaut VARENE
On 1/6/06, Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> Anyhow, given how hppa is already among the architectures that did not
> re-qualify for Etch, I propose that, from now on, hppa be ignored for
> deciding whether a package is considered valid for going into Testing.

I believe that you are mistaken. hppa *is* Release Candidate for Etch
(see http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html)

I don't know what's up with your particular build problem but it will
not be overlooked, please be patient, this is not the only issue we're
dealing with.

T-Bone

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti (was: Bug#344538: tetex-base: tex-common to Pre-Depends, otherwise installation fails)

2006-01-06 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
pe, 2005-12-23 kello 17:23 +0100, Frank Küster kirjoitti:

> Hi Lamont, hi Debian admins,
> 
> during the last weeks there were a couple of FTBFS cases on sarti, the
> hppa buildd, which point to severe problems on that machine.  The things
> that happened did only happen on this single buildd, but did in no way
> look as if they were architecture specific.  
> 
> To me it looks as if there were hardware problems.  
> 
> Previously, the bugs were resolved without notifying the maintainers how
> this was achieved (or whether maybe nothing was done at all except
> requeing the FTBFS package), so I can't tell what the real cause was then.

[...]

> The script that fails is tetex-base's postinst:
> 
> Setting up tetex-base (3.0-11) ...
> Removing unchanged obsolete conffiles ... done
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/tetex-base.postinst: line 678: update-language: command 
> not found
> dpkg: error processing tetex-base (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
> 
> so tex-common (on which tetex-base depends) should be already
> configured and work fine (note that both packages are architecture:
> all).  But the build does not even try to install tex-common, so it
> seems dpkg thinks that it is already installed:
> 
> > http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=planner&ver=0.13-4&arch=hppa&stamp=1135258214&file=log&as=raw

[...]

> In fact this particular command should work even when
> tex-common is only unpacked, but unconfigured, since update-language is
> a simple shell script in /usr/sbin.  If tex-common is unpacked and the
> shell works, it should work, too.
> 
> So it seems something is severely amiss with the debbuild chroot on
> sarti. 
> 
> Regards, Frank
> 
> P.S. I'd like to reassign this bug to "buildd.debian.org" or
> "sarti.debian.org", but such a virtual package doesn't exist...

I'd like to know how things are progressing with this issue. 

My package is still stuck on hppa because of this. It has successfully
built on every other architecture. Even worse, this is the second time
that this situation prevents build-depends from being fulfilled on hppa.

Anyhow, given how hppa is already among the architectures that did not
re-qualify for Etch, I propose that, from now on, hppa be ignored for
deciding whether a package is considered valid for going into Testing.

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Bug#344538: build problems on sarti (was: Bug#344538: tetex-base: tex-common to Pre-Depends, otherwise installation fails)

2005-12-23 Thread Frank Küster
severity 344538 important
thanks

Hi Lamont, hi Debian admins,

during the last weeks there were a couple of FTBFS cases on sarti, the
hppa buildd, which point to severe problems on that machine.  The things
that happened did only happen on this single buildd, but did in no way
look as if they were architecture specific.  

To me it looks as if there were hardware problems.  

Previously, the bugs were resolved without notifying the maintainers how
this was achieved (or whether maybe nothing was done at all except
requeing the FTBFS package), so I can't tell what the real cause was then.

See for example this new bug:

Martin-Éric Racine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Package: tetex-base
> Version: 3.0-11
> Severity: grave
> Justification: renders package unusable
>
> texte-base installation fails because it needs to execute update-language
> (from tex-common), which is not yet unpacked or configured during a fresh 
> install.

This analysis is not correct.  The script that fails is tetex-base's
postinst:

Setting up tetex-base (3.0-11) ...
Removing unchanged obsolete conffiles ... done
/var/lib/dpkg/info/tetex-base.postinst: line 678: update-language: command not 
found
dpkg: error processing tetex-base (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127

so tex-common (on which tetex-base depends) should be already
configured and work fine (note that both packages are architecture:
all).  But the build does not even try to install tex-common, so it
seems dpkg thinks that it is already installed:

> http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=planner&ver=0.13-4&arch=hppa&stamp=1135258214&file=log&as=raw
>
> The cure would be to move tex-comon to Pre-Depends.

No, for sure not.  In fact this particular command should work even when
tex-common is only unpacked, but unconfigured, since update-language is
a simple shell script in /usr/sbin.  If tex-common is unpacked and the
shell works, it should work, too.

So it seems something is severely amiss with the debbuild chroot on
sarti. 

Regards, Frank

P.S. I'd like to reassign this bug to "buildd.debian.org" or
"sarti.debian.org", but such a virtual package doesn't exist...
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