Bug#445119: This package is two years old
Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julien Cristau a écrit : You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. The goal was to awake mainteners... It seems to work. No it doesn't, I don't consider this bug serious and I merge it with two other bugs that were asking for new upstream. When you'll have your head in the build system and the hell dependencies, maybe you'll understand how a pain it is to package argouml. See the mdr license and source problem for example. As see with argouml developers, 0.24 is not compilable for now and there's no maintenance branch for it, only a unstable development branch. Can you envisage to drop argouml out of Debian ? The goal is to remove an outdated and obsolete package. Perhaps in few years we will have an argouml release that would be packagable. Regards, -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0200, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julien Cristau a écrit : You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. The goal was to awake mainteners... It seems to work. No it doesn't, I don't consider this bug serious and I merge it with two other bugs that were asking for new upstream. When you'll have your head in the build system and the hell dependencies, maybe you'll understand how a pain it is to package argouml. See the mdr license and source problem for example. As see with argouml developers, 0.24 is not compilable for now and there's no maintenance branch for it, only a unstable development branch. Can you envisage to drop argouml out of Debian ? The goal is to remove an outdated and obsolete package. Perhaps in few years we will have an argouml release that would be packagable. How does upstream build argouml when its not buildable according to you? Perhaps using icedtea for building will solve all issues. icedtea will (hopefully) be soon included in Debian. Cheers, Michael
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
Michael Koch a écrit : On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0200, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julien Cristau a écrit : You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. The goal was to awake mainteners... It seems to work. No it doesn't, I don't consider this bug serious and I merge it with two other bugs that were asking for new upstream. When you'll have your head in the build system and the hell dependencies, maybe you'll understand how a pain it is to package argouml. See the mdr license and source problem for example. As see with argouml developers, 0.24 is not compilable for now and there's no maintenance branch for it, only a unstable development branch. Can you envisage to drop argouml out of Debian ? The goal is to remove an outdated and obsolete package. Perhaps in few years we will have an argouml release that would be packagable. How does upstream build argouml when its not buildable according to you? Perhaps using icedtea for building will solve all issues. icedtea will (hopefully) be soon included in Debian. The development branch can be built, but it's not usable for packaging: http://argouml.tigris.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=21295 The build issue for 0.24 can be fix using a part of the development branch (MDR) on which there's a license issue as Arnaud Vandyck said before. Regards, -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Michael Koch a écrit : On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0200, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julien Cristau a écrit : You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. The goal was to awake mainteners... It seems to work. No it doesn't, I don't consider this bug serious and I merge it with two other bugs that were asking for new upstream. When you'll have your head in the build system and the hell dependencies, maybe you'll understand how a pain it is to package argouml. See the mdr license and source problem for example. As see with argouml developers, 0.24 is not compilable for now and there's no maintenance branch for it, only a unstable development branch. Can you envisage to drop argouml out of Debian ? The goal is to remove an outdated and obsolete package. Perhaps in few years we will have an argouml release that would be packagable. How does upstream build argouml when its not buildable according to you? Perhaps using icedtea for building will solve all issues. icedtea will (hopefully) be soon included in Debian. The development branch can be built, but it's not usable for packaging: http://argouml.tigris.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=21295 The build issue for 0.24 can be fix using a part of the development branch (MDR) on which there's a license issue as Arnaud Vandyck said before. Then its perhaps best to file two bugs, one against ftp.debian.org to remove argouml from testing and another against argouml to prevent argouml from migrating into testing again. Then we can update argouml in unstable when its ready to do so. Cheers, Michael
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On Sun, Oct 7, 2007 at 20:15:55 +0200, Michael Koch wrote: Then its perhaps best to file two bugs, one against ftp.debian.org to remove argouml from testing and another against argouml to prevent argouml from migrating into testing again. Then we can update argouml in unstable when its ready to do so. Removals from testing are done by the release team, not the ftp masters, so once there's an RC bug filed against argouml you can just ask for its removal on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
My main problem is a missing library: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.uml.argouml.issues/28132 As mentioned on the net it seems to be a problem from ant 1.7: http://www.nabble.com/MDRAnt-task-compatibility-with-Ant-1.7-t3873161r3.html I'm contacting argouml devs for this. Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : I added you to pkg-java, you can start working on argouml. You can find the source package or argouml at http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO Be careful with the package and only commit changes when you are sure of what you do. Thanks for your help, On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : Yes but not very active at the moment, but you are free to help of course: http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/package/tarballs$ svn co http://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/package svn: Échec de la requête PROPFIND sur '/svn/pkg-java/package' svn: PROPFIND de '/svn/pkg-java/package': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.alioth.debian.org) http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/argouml/debian/ http://svn.debian.org/ It's not usable to make a package. My account is encolpe in pkg-zope Regards, -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
Package: argouml Severity: critical --- Please enter the report below this line. --- The last offical version is the 0.24 and was launched the Feb 15, 2007. The 0.19.8 have been released the Nov 8, 2005. Is there a maintener for this package ? --- System information. --- Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-2-686 Debian Release: lenny/sid 500 unstableftp.fr.debian.org --- Package information. --- Depends(Version) | Installed -+- j2re1.3 | OR j2re1.4 | OR java2-runtime| libxerces-java | antlr| 2.7.6-9 liblog4j1.2-java | 1.2.15-1 libgef-java (= 0.10.2) | libnsuml-java| 0.4.20-12.1 libocl-argo-java | libi18n-java (= 0.1.3) | 0.1.3a-2 libtoolbar-java (= 0.4) | libgnujmi-java | libswidgets-java | -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: argouml The last offical version is the 0.24 and was launched the Feb 15, 2007. The 0.19.8 have been released the Nov 8, 2005. Is there a maintener for this package ? Yes but not very active at the moment, but you are free to help of course: http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO/ -- Arnaud Vandyck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
I added you to pkg-java, you can start working on argouml. You can find the source package or argouml at http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO Be careful with the package and only commit changes when you are sure of what you do. Thanks for your help, On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : Yes but not very active at the moment, but you are free to help of course: http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/package/tarballs$ svn co http://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/package svn: Échec de la requête PROPFIND sur '/svn/pkg-java/package' svn: PROPFIND de '/svn/pkg-java/package': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.alioth.debian.org) http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/argouml/debian/ http://svn.debian.org/ It's not usable to make a package. My account is encolpe in pkg-zope Regards, -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales -- Arnaud Vandyck
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : Yes but not very active at the moment, but you are free to help of course: http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/package/tarballs$ svn co http://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/package svn: Échec de la requête PROPFIND sur '/svn/pkg-java/package' svn: PROPFIND de '/svn/pkg-java/package': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.alioth.debian.org) http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/argouml/debian/ http://svn.debian.org/ It's not usable to make a package. My account is encolpe in pkg-zope Regards, -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : Yes but not very active at the moment, but you are free to help of course: http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/package/tarballs$ svn co http://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/package svn: Échec de la requête PROPFIND sur '/svn/pkg-java/package' svn: PROPFIND de '/svn/pkg-java/package': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.alioth.debian.org) http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/argouml/debian/ http://svn.debian.org/ -- Arnaud Vandyck
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On Wed, Oct 3, 2007 at 13:09:30 +0200, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Package: argouml Severity: critical You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. --- Please enter the report below this line. --- The last offical version is the 0.24 and was launched the Feb 15, 2007. The 0.19.8 have been released the Nov 8, 2005. Is there a maintener for this package ? Are you volunteering? Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
Julien Cristau a écrit : On Wed, Oct 3, 2007 at 13:09:30 +0200, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Package: argouml Severity: critical You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. The goal was to awake mainteners... It seems to work. --- Please enter the report below this line. --- The last offical version is the 0.24 and was launched the Feb 15, 2007. The 0.19.8 have been released the Nov 8, 2005. Is there a maintener for this package ? Are you volunteering? I'm more a python/zope maintainer than a java one... -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julien Cristau a écrit : You'll need some justification if you want to make this a critical bug. The whole system doesn't get broken just because this particular package is a bit old. The goal was to awake mainteners... It seems to work. No it doesn't, I don't consider this bug serious and I merge it with two other bugs that were asking for new upstream. When you'll have your head in the build system and the hell dependencies, maybe you'll understand how a pain it is to package argouml. See the mdr license and source problem for example. Also, I don't have much time to dedicate to Debian ATM. -- Arnaud Vandyck
Bug#445119: This package is two years old
Arnaud Vandyck a écrit : On 10/3/07, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: argouml The last offical version is the 0.24 and was launched the Feb 15, 2007. The 0.19.8 have been released the Nov 8, 2005. Is there a maintener for this package ? Yes but not very active at the moment, but you are free to help of course: http://people.debian.org/~avdyk/TODO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/package/tarballs$ svn co http://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/package svn: Échec de la requête PROPFIND sur '/svn/pkg-java/package' svn: PROPFIND de '/svn/pkg-java/package': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.alioth.debian.org) -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales
